on 14/8/01 7:12 pm, Kris Feldmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I too continue to amaze myself with this issue of 68k vs. PPC.
> The differences in the amount of 68k code in different versions
> of Mac OS have a very powerful psychological effect on the user
> and have a tendency to really mask the true speed of different
> machines. It's very difficult to remember that the OS is not
> where you actually spend your time and do your work.
>
> Last weekend I played with my 6100 again and formatted a new drive
> and installed System 7.1.2 (which came with the 6100 in 1994). I was
> *shocked* at how slow it felt. I spent a lot of time with that OS
> in '94/'95 on the 6100 and I my memory of it was that the combination
> was quite fast. Everything is relative I suppose. I ran some apps and
> captured some video, etc. I then wiped the disk and installed 8.0.
> Navigating around the finder became *much* snappier and that made the
> computer feel much faster. The funny thing about this, which is so
> hard to get through my brain, is that applications run at the same
> speed regardless. The only difference is the speed of the Finder,
> copying, context switching, etc. I was unable to capture video
> with any higher frame rate, or run Photoshop filters any faster.
> 3D raytracing didn't get any faster either.
>
> One of the snappiest feeling machines I have is a Quadra 650 (68040).
> It feels like a much newer machine and is a joy to use for every day
> tasks. To really see if you have a fast or slow machine you have to
> completely ignore the operating system (very hard to do). Get into
> an intensive application (one which can work the CPU/disk for several
> minutes at least) and see how it compares (if you are testing a PPC,
> be sure that the app is properly compiled for the PPC processor).
> Blur a large image in Photoshop or render a test image in PovRAY.
> These tests reveal the truth: that the 6100/60 is far faster than the
> Quadra 650, although the Quadra *feels* faster. With older versions of
> Mac OS the difference is even more pronounced. The 6100 running 7.1.2
> feels about like a Mac Plus.
>
> I've been slowly collecting the pieces to build a Duo 2300. I'm almost
> done, but now I'm really thinking that I might be happier with a Duo
> 280c. For text editing, ssh, calendar, etc. the 68LC040 will probably
> give a more pleasing experience (and use less battery power, which is
> always a goal).
>
>
> Kris Feldmann
>
> Thus wrote Gerard Tripptree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:08:31 -0400
>> Subject: [Duo2400] OS 8.1 and 2300
>>
>> After successfully upgrading my 280c to a 2300c, I re-installed OS 8.1 - "
>> ... for this Macintosh only ..." which should have given me a PPC OS
>> install. Well, strangely enough, it seems to me that the 2300 actually runs
>> SLOWER than the 280c was running with the 68040 and OS 8.1. I did install
>> PowerPC versions of the application software I was using on the 280c.
>
>
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Hi
I would like to add my oppinion to this discussion as i think that some of
the things that have been stated are true to form.
I to have a number of MAC powerbooks rangeing from a duo 230 to a 5300c
all have very different config and i have tested for speed on all of themto
compare this was to see which one was better for my daughter to use for all
of her schoolwork.
the main system that she uses for school is Clariswork and out of all the
machines i have she has found that the 520 powerbook with 20 mb of ram and
160mb HDD seems to run claris twice as fast as the duo 2300c that i
originally gave her this also has 20mb ram and a 1,1gb HDD we plugged the
2300 into a minidock and attached a monitor and a keyboard and mouse to it.
but for some reason the 2300 seemed to run slowly for her when she wanted
certain things so we wapped the two computers over and we ran exactly the
same programs and like i said it was faster.
This prompted me to test out all the other computers so i tested the 5300c
with 32mb ram and a 1.4gb Hdd against a 540c with 36mb Ram and a 500 Mb scsi
Hdd i ran netscape 2.02 for 68k mac on the 540 and netscape 2.02 for PPc on
the 5300 and in all the things that i did ie, connecting to the net opening
net pages sending email downloading files etc the 540 was faster.
I then tested it with apple works 5 and in everything bar saveing the files
i had done the 540 was faster again.
To that end it has changed my entire opinion of the mac powerbook and sorry
to say that i get a lot more pleasure out of useing my 540c than any other
powerbook that i have and i think that apple got it right with the 5xx
machines.
Sorry if anyone was board but i would like to here if anyone else shares my
oppinion on older macs.
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