Something else I remember was that the 520-540c had the 68LC040 chip while the Japanese-market 550c had the full blown 68040 chip (very fancy). One thing I noticed was that the 210-270c had the full '030 chip while the 280 + 280c had the 68LC040.

~ Larry


On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 09:22 PM, Larry Friedman wrote:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_processor/68lc040.html
http://www.tspintl.com/support/tsp/quadra.htm
http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/foldoc/92/75.htm
http://www.pix.net/languard/mc68040.shtml
http://www.crashtips.com/macacronyms.html

And that's just the surface. The 68LC040 did not have an FPU.

Larry


On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 09:05  PM, Marc Sira wrote:

Are you sure of the 280c being faster than the 270c? I had
supposed that the FPU in the 270c might more than make up for the 030-040
difference.
The 270c doesn't have a built in FPU. However you can take advantage of an
FPU if you run the 270c in a DuoDock (FPU was optional in the original Dock
and standard in the DuoDock II & DuoDock Plus).

The 270c uses a 68LC030 and the 280c uses a 68LC040. The LC
nomenclature is referring to a lack of FPU.
I'm not sure where you got that idea, but Paul is correct, and the 270c has
a built-in FPU (I used to run Infini-D on mine). It also has a 68030, not a
"68LC030" - I'm not certain that model even exists , but if it does it
refers to something other than the lack of an on-chip FPU, since the FPU is
external to the 68030 in any case.

In terms of actually answering the question, a 68[LC]040 is theoretically twice
as fast as a 68030 at integer ops. My experience is that the real-world
difference on a Mac is somewhat less than that, though this may partly reflect
the tendency to run a later OS version on a 68040. Between a Duo 280 and 270
you'll find that the 280 is somewhat appreciably faster most of the time and
considerably faster for integer-only number crunching, but vastly slower (or
simply impossible to use) for floating-point work. Since you're only likely to
actually need an FPU for things like non-realtime graphics rendering, you can
decide which would suit your needs better. Most Mac software never hits the
FPU, especially 68k stuff (since the presence of one is so hit-and-miss, and
failing to find it is usually a crashing matter on a stock OS).

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