I would assume that the person who mentioned "AppleTalk IP" was referring to one of two things: 1. AppleShare IP, which means running File Sharing over the IP protocol rather than AppleTalk. This is exactly what AppleShareIP Server, some third-party NT products and UNIX products offer, which is the fastest method of Chooser/AppleShare/Mac OS-based File Sharing. However, don't be fooled by Mac OS 9's promise of a similar offering. This is done with a third-party extension from OpenDoor (www.opendoor.com) that TRANSLATES AppleTalk AppleShare to IP AppleShare whereas AppleShare IP server (and the NT & UNIX equivalents) do it natively. OS 9 sharing over IP is actually SLOWER than over AppleTalk. 2. MacIP, one of Apple's greatest abominations along the lines of Microsoft's Win 9x line of OS's (compared to NT), was created so that IP could be spoken through LocalTalk. For a reason unbeknownst to me, LocalTalk can't do IP except for this method, which REALLY isn't IP. Each IP packet is encapsulated into an AppleTalk packet and then broken out when it hits its destination. Two major problems with this: 1.) A lot of overhead 2.) Individual Macs can't break out the IP packets themselves (though they can create them)... a specific application is necessary, and there's only two or three applications out there that I know of that can still do this... Vicomsoft Gateways, AppleShare IP Server and IPNetRouter. Needless to say, don't waste your time. Now, if I can finally tie all this back into Duo land, there actually is one practical application of MacIP that I could find... the Farallon AirDock, and/or PowerBooks or any other IR device that can only do IRTalk rather than IrDA. Since IRTalk is limited to AppleTalk (and cannot do IP), the only way to get IP through one of these devices is via MacIP. I've always used Vicomsoft Internet Gateway to share my internet connection with multiple Macs... I also had an AirDock that I'd leave on my Den table so when I came home, I could just point my laptop and browse. This HAD to be done via MacIP. The AirDock was then plugged into a Mac SE/30 (w/Ethernet) which was running LocalTalk bridge, which would pass the 2400 network signals down to the ethernet port, to the hub, to my 8600 which was running Vicomsoft, which would finally break out the IP packets from the AppleTalk and send them out through the ISDN line and the process would then reverse. And it DID saturate the ISDN line (14k/sec). There's a mouthful. Have fun, j On 11/17/99 4:53 PM, Blair Fisher < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Someone mentioned "AppleTalk IP" as a preferred alternative to AppleTalk�I >have simply selected 'connect via ethernet' in my AppleTalk control panel >and set up appropriate IP addresses for each computer in the TCP/IP >control panel. Seems to work well for me, but I don't see anything >labelled "AppleTalk IP" ---------- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml> Be sure to visit Mac2400! <http://www.sineware.com/mac2400> X-Router | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/MIH120.html> Midwest Mac Parts <http://www.midwestmac.com> | After-market parts for Macs. Fix your ticking dock for $59 w/ trade-in of PS. 888-356-1104 PowerBook Guy is | Click here! Everything PowerBook! | http://www.powerbookguy.com
