>>>> now that US legislation has made it easier to export strong encryption
>>>> products out of the USA (witness PGP), I was hoping to download Navigator
>>>> 4.08 for 68k Macs from Europe - unfortunately, that's still not possible
>>>> from the official download sites.

>>> Maybe ya should see if some kind soul would down load it to a zip and send
>>> it to you!

>>I think that it might be in violation of federal law.  I'd be concerned
>>about that.

>ONLY if you get caught!  I had the full 128 bit install on my computer when
>I went home!  I might have maybe just installed it on another computer,
>then again maybe I didn't!

I just installed the 128-bit Navigator and IE on a 68K Mac the other day,
so I happen to have the download link handy. Without going into the
stupidity of the "munitions export" treaty regulations that govern this or
the unlikelihood of prosecution even if you *do* get caught, it should be
noted that the download agreement for Navigator does indeed preclude
exporting it from the US or Canada:

  I will not directly or indirectly export or re-export the software (or any
  underlying part thereof) without first obtaining a US export license or
  determining that a license exception is available.

This even precludes sending a copy from Canada, since the only way to get
the software in the first place is to accept the agreement and download it
from the States. However, if Brandy has a 128-bit version already in
Australia (or anyone in any other country outside Canada or the US), she
can do whatever she likes and send it to whomever she chooses. If you want
a PPC or Unix 128-bit version, Fortify can also provide one for free (also
from Australia), with the patcher at http://www.fortify.net/ (unfortunately
one of the few platforms they don't support is the 68K Mac).

As far as I know the only real modification of the pertinent US legislation
has been to allow 56-bit encryption to be exported, including DES. 128 bits
is still more than the NSA is comfortable admitting they can crack. ;)

All that said, it really wouldn't very hard to convince the checker CGI at
https://wwwus.netscape.com/usdl-bin/pdms_dnstest.cgi?PRODUCT=navigatorstandalone
4.08-mac68k7.6.1-en-base-128&COMPONENTS=CLIENT&TEMPLATES=NSCP
that you're in the US or Canada, by connecting through a machine that is,
and citizens of countries outside North America have no reason not to lie
with the Accept button - the ITAR treaty doesn't affect them at all,
because their nation hasn't signed it.


--
Marc Sira               |       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"If you can't play with words, what good are they?"


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