So here's a question.  Is there any thought being given to code to
import an entire site, rather than just a journal?  I'm still
interested in converting Inksome to the DW code.

KP

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 17:57,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Comment Important is a hard problem because it allows users to
> attribute arbitrary words to other people.  This is the reason no
> "migrate" tool uploads comments -- no LJplatform allows a user to
> upload comments attributed to someone else.
>
> I'm quite certain that Comment Import is the do-or-die adoption
> feature for DWS.  If you don't have it, the only sufficient motivation
> to move to DWS for 99% of users will be the complete eradication of
> their journals, i.e. they'll only move if LJ tanks.
>
> Possible solutions/approaches:
>
> 1) Allow uploads, but MARK them as uploaded.  Add a column or two to
> the the comments table, "uploaded BOOL" and maybe an appropriate
> datestamp.  Display them with appropriate disclaimer "UPLOADED BY
> JOURNAL OWNER ON $DATE".
>
> 2) Provide means of original comment maker finding and authorizing the
> comments.  (See azurelunatic's recent post, re doing this with OpenID.)
> Could be combined with the above to strike the "UPLOADED" flag.  Note
> this will confront many users with thousands upon thousands of entries
> to approve.  Batch approval would be both necessary and a gruesome
> security hole.
>
> 3) Provide original comment maker a means to proof some/all uploaded
> comments against an authoritative server, i.e. upload from text files
> then compare against livejournal.com to see if the comments match.
> Have *no* idea if this is feasible at all, but even if it could allow,
> e.g., just all the public comments to be programmatically authorized,
> that would reduce how many the user needed to approve manually.  This
> would involve some serious coding.
>
> 4) Allow uploads as screened, and unscreenable and frozen, comments,
> so that the journal owner has them to read, but they're published to
> no-one else.
>
> 5) Only allow uploads directly from authorized servers, such as
> livejournal.com.  Involves divulging one's user/pass to the importing
> server (so it can log in as you directly to LJ), which is another sort
> of security breach.
>
> That's what I got so far.
>
> Finally, a non-solution anyone thinking seriously about this problem
> needs to consider very hard:
>
> A) HTML snapshot of the comments on the original journal, dropped
> right into the body of a post on the new journal.
>
> This is a grody, grody kludge and SHOULD NOT be promoted.  HOWEVER, it
> makes a point: there's NOTHING stopping the end user from doing this
> already, so any solution DWS comes up should be compared to that as a
> reality check!  There is a tendency to make things more righteous than
> they need to be, and reminding yourself "Or, of course, the user could
> dump a scrape of the comments into the body of the new post" helps
> cool that fever.
>
> This is why I think importing with labeling (option 1) is quite
> reasonable: it's better than the kludge (option A) without sacrificing
> security over it.
>
> -- Siderea
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