Rag, you have missed the point. You are comparing apples to avocados, not even oranges. It is the Antarctic-type DXpeditions that need UP FRONT funding. Forget the "small team" DXpeditions and the post-DXpedition QSLing practices, however varied that may be. There is no cultural or transoceanic divide for that dilemma. 73! Glenn W0GJ
_____ From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of ragnar otterstad Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:48 AM To: Don Greenbaum Cc: dx-chat Subject: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] F Y I Let us compare apples with apples To the best of my knowledge, the team G3WSXW/G3TXF never asked for financial support. But they always QSL-ed 100 %, direct or via buro, and uploaded to LOTW. A modus operandi greatly appreciated. 73 rag Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] F Y I "Commercialisation": Does that include writing books about your dxpeditions and then selling those books? I wonder where the profits of my purchase of "up 2" went? Maybe I should have demanded my copy for free. 73 Don N1DG At 01:17 PM 5/20/2012, ragnar otterstad wrote: Hello Don I dont know more than what I read, but I am sure you will put everything in perspective. We are an who look forward to that. Perhaps it yet again all boils down to the old trans-atlantic cultural divide. QSLing habits, charitable donations, commercialisation are all different in USA than anywhere else in the world. 73 Rag LA5HE Well do you know the context of the sentence being quoted? Or the fact that I was referring to a study of over 20 dxpeditions including one that uploaded within a week of the end of operations? You will note the phrase uploading early is not in the sentence you quoted me as saying. I was asked about a six month upload timeframe. I think you might ask someone for some Clarification of his remarks before publicly questioning what he does or does not know. Don N1DG On May 20, 2012, at 7:37 AM, ragnar otterstad <la...@yahoo.no> wrote: How would N1DG know that income immediately dries up when uploading early to LoTW? He has never tried it! Tom is right: it makes no difference to anything, in my experience anyway. 73 de Roger/G3SXW. From: Tom Wylie Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:06 PM To: Trevor Dunne Cc: Roger Western ; c...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CDXC] 3C6A and 3C0E Doesn't sound exactly right to me, becuase according to the ARRL there are only 50,000 users of LOTW many of whom are unactive or historical logs. Sounds like a lot of hoo hah to me to try to justify their position, and can be considered a red herring. In my experience of meing a QSL Manager and on going on expeditions myself, those who want a paper card, will STILL want a paper card no matter the state of LOTW. I have no noticed any visible change in the number of direct requests 1 year after my last trip to Senegal, when I uploaded the logs to LOTW each day. I am still receiving hundreds via the buro in addition. Tom GM4FDM On 20/05/2012 12:01, Trevor Dunne wrote: > Seen this intresting tweet from one of the DX dinners at Dayton last > night it was a talk on DXpedition funding, > > NCDXF (@NCDXF) > 19/05/2012 20:10 > Great discussion about #DXpedition funding! N1DG: "The minute the LOTW > upload happens, you might as well close the bank account." > > Goes against the general feeling posted here, > > Trevor > EI2GLB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: cdxc-dig...@yahoogroups.com cdxc-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cdxc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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