Hi,

Thank you Bill for a civil restart of this discussion!

We are expecting guests in a little while, so let me be brief:

1. I read the reflector

2. Folks who want to use DXLab please do so!

3. When I saw the enormous of email traffic a few month ago when LoTW had
problems I realized it was much better to have a clear delineation between
DX4WIN and LoTW. Is saving a few mouse clicks worth my effort and support
time afterwards?

4. I wrote a pretty cool regular expression to retrieve the QRZ info, but
also realized that the page was constructed to make this difficult for
commercial reasons. Have to rethink that.

5. The user has the same tools as I have to construct a radio file because
it is part of DX4WIN. Even debugging the interface is part of it. So if YOU
have a radio that is not supported by the program, you stand a much better
chance to get a working interface going than I can without that radio.
(There are still users who believe I have every radio ever made in my
shack!)

6. OmniRig: Has evaluated to a powerful system, using text files to
describe the interface similar to what DX4WIN does. The problem for me is
that OmniRig is event driven, DX4WIN polls the radio.

7. Multiple rotators: Should this be multiple serial ports and you select
the rotator or something smarter (band, or band segment driven with
possible override). How may users have multiple rotators?

8. I have a pretty long list of things to do, unfortunately it does not
indicate when / how to do this.

Happy New Year!

--Paul, KK4HD

PS I hope we can keep these discussions civilized. The history of this
reflector goes back many years, and today seems to be the first time things
are getting slightly out of hand. Please avoid personal attacks.



On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, WILLIAM <n...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I have always considered myself as a loyal and satisfied user of DX4WIN! I
> have probably been responsible for 25 or more fellow DXers choosing DX4WIN
> over other possible logging programs. I dread the thought of ever changing
> to some other new method of maintaining the heart of my DX History. With
> that being said I have a hard time understanding how the good and bad
> feedback that has been offered by many long time DX4win supporters has
> deteriorated to the level of personal attacks against each other.
>
> I think my biggest frustration & disappointment in regard to DX4win was
> best stated by Kostas SV1DPI when he said:
>
>
> " The bad thing for me (worst than not updating) is that Paul, the author
> of the program, does not say to us his thoughts for all these. I would
> like to hear his opinion, even it is something like "dx4win is my last
> priority and I don't think I will update it the next 30 years"(I hope
> not saying it)..."
>
> There may be many good reasons for Paul not taking update action, BUT in
> my opinion absolutely NO reason for not communicating with his customers!
> He owes us that!
>
> My personal wish list still has the QRZ.com XML interface update near the
> top.
>
> Still Hoping!
>
> 73
> Bill N4NX
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lou Dietrich" <n...@roadrunner.com>
> To: "DX4WIN Reflector" <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 12:23:06 PM
> Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updates
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Ernie <w8eh.er...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Ernie and Group,
>
> I run HDSDR and DX4WIN all the time...simply use LPB2, a free software
> offered by Larry N8LP....You can have HDSDR, DX4WIN, N1MM and anything
> else you want to linked to your rig....it works great...
>
> The rest of your post can be added to our joint 'wish list'....Hi
> Hi...along with updated rig files or movement to OmniRig...along with an
> update Submission Sheet showing LOTW, Hard QSL or EQSL (EQSL yuck!,
> sorry, editorial comment!)
>
> Even the Report Generator is missing simple drop down indicators under
> Report/ Action, Modes and Bands, showing different selections. This was
> reported and not acted upon by Paul many versions ago...multiple rotor
> controls...two (or more) telnet sessions...WWV numbers on the Map Screen
> or on top of the QSO windows...simple integration of digital programs,
> MMTTY/2Tone, better PSK31 integration...
>
> DX4WIN is a remarkably simple, stable but outdated piece of software.
> Paul did a great job with it many years ago but alas, now it just
> flounders in limbo with little support or enhancement from him. If it
> wasn't for Jim AD1C's tremendous support, I would have moved off this
> archaic platform a long time ago. There is little or no reason why
> AD1C's enhancements were not embraced, supported and incorporated by Paul.
>
> We, dear fellow DX4WIN users, are 'caught' in an trap...move off to
> another and abandon what we have learned ...or stick with DX4WIN and
> hope someone will get this platform back on the track.
>
> Flaming each other does little or nothing to enhance or move this topic
> forward.
>
> 73/ Regards....
>
> Lou N2TU
>
>
> On 1/5/2014 10:24 AM, Ernie wrote:
> >
> > Important to me:
> >
> > 1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to my
> > rig at the same time.
> > 2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
> > 3. Easy way to add mode names myself
> >
> > Ernie W8EH
> >
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