Amen!

-----Original Message-----
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 3:24 PM
To: Dx4win@Mailman.Qth.Net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updates on a more positive note!

Well said, Paul !

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
k...@arrl.net


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Paul van der Eijk
<pvandere...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you Bill for a civil restart of this discussion!
>
> We are expecting guests in a little while, so let me be brief:
>
> 1. I read the reflector
>
> 2. Folks who want to use DXLab please do so!
>
> 3. When I saw the enormous of email traffic a few month ago when LoTW had
> problems I realized it was much better to have a clear delineation between
> DX4WIN and LoTW. Is saving a few mouse clicks worth my effort and support
> time afterwards?
>
> 4. I wrote a pretty cool regular expression to retrieve the QRZ info, but
> also realized that the page was constructed to make this difficult for
> commercial reasons. Have to rethink that.
>
> 5. The user has the same tools as I have to construct a radio file because
> it is part of DX4WIN. Even debugging the interface is part of it. So if
YOU
> have a radio that is not supported by the program, you stand a much better
> chance to get a working interface going than I can without that radio.
> (There are still users who believe I have every radio ever made in my
> shack!)
>
> 6. OmniRig: Has evaluated to a powerful system, using text files to
> describe the interface similar to what DX4WIN does. The problem for me is
> that OmniRig is event driven, DX4WIN polls the radio.
>
> 7. Multiple rotators: Should this be multiple serial ports and you select
> the rotator or something smarter (band, or band segment driven with
> possible override). How may users have multiple rotators?
>
> 8. I have a pretty long list of things to do, unfortunately it does not
> indicate when / how to do this.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> --Paul, KK4HD
>
> PS I hope we can keep these discussions civilized. The history of this
> reflector goes back many years, and today seems to be the first time
things
> are getting slightly out of hand. Please avoid personal attacks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, WILLIAM <n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have always considered myself as a loyal and satisfied user of DX4WIN!
> I
> > have probably been responsible for 25 or more fellow DXers choosing
> DX4WIN
> > over other possible logging programs. I dread the thought of ever
> changing
> > to some other new method of maintaining the heart of my DX History. With
> > that being said I have a hard time understanding how the good and bad
> > feedback that has been offered by many long time DX4win supporters has
> > deteriorated to the level of personal attacks against each other.
> >
> > I think my biggest frustration & disappointment in regard to DX4win was
> > best stated by Kostas SV1DPI when he said:
> >
> >
> > " The bad thing for me (worst than not updating) is that Paul, the
author
> > of the program, does not say to us his thoughts for all these. I would
> > like to hear his opinion, even it is something like "dx4win is my last
> > priority and I don't think I will update it the next 30 years"(I hope
> > not saying it)..."
> >
> > There may be many good reasons for Paul not taking update action, BUT in
> > my opinion absolutely NO reason for not communicating with his
customers!
> > He owes us that!
> >
> > My personal wish list still has the QRZ.com XML interface update near
the
> > top.
> >
> > Still Hoping!
> >
> > 73
> > Bill N4NX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Lou Dietrich" <n...@roadrunner.com>
> > To: "DX4WIN Reflector" <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 12:23:06 PM
> > Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updates
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Ernie <w8eh.er...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernie and Group,
> >
> > I run HDSDR and DX4WIN all the time...simply use LPB2, a free software
> > offered by Larry N8LP....You can have HDSDR, DX4WIN, N1MM and anything
> > else you want to linked to your rig....it works great...
> >
> > The rest of your post can be added to our joint 'wish list'....Hi
> > Hi...along with updated rig files or movement to OmniRig...along with an
> > update Submission Sheet showing LOTW, Hard QSL or EQSL (EQSL yuck!,
> > sorry, editorial comment!)
> >
> > Even the Report Generator is missing simple drop down indicators under
> > Report/ Action, Modes and Bands, showing different selections. This was
> > reported and not acted upon by Paul many versions ago...multiple rotor
> > controls...two (or more) telnet sessions...WWV numbers on the Map Screen
> > or on top of the QSO windows...simple integration of digital programs,
> > MMTTY/2Tone, better PSK31 integration...
> >
> > DX4WIN is a remarkably simple, stable but outdated piece of software.
> > Paul did a great job with it many years ago but alas, now it just
> > flounders in limbo with little support or enhancement from him. If it
> > wasn't for Jim AD1C's tremendous support, I would have moved off this
> > archaic platform a long time ago. There is little or no reason why
> > AD1C's enhancements were not embraced, supported and incorporated by
> Paul.
> >
> > We, dear fellow DX4WIN users, are 'caught' in an trap...move off to
> > another and abandon what we have learned ...or stick with DX4WIN and
> > hope someone will get this platform back on the track.
> >
> > Flaming each other does little or nothing to enhance or move this topic
> > forward.
> >
> > 73/ Regards....
> >
> > Lou N2TU
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/2014 10:24 AM, Ernie wrote:
> > >
> > > Important to me:
> > >
> > > 1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to my
> > > rig at the same time.
> > > 2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
> > > 3. Easy way to add mode names myself
> > >
> > > Ernie W8EH
> > >
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