Sorry for my mistyping . . . that would, of course, be "ban on amateur
spread spectrum modes" not "band on . . ."  -- CJD 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Carl Jón Denbow
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:56 PM
To: 'Brendan Minish'; 'Dave ve3wej'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] ROS

Just a quick addition to what Brendan said, all of which is correct to the
best of my knowledge.  The FCC has stated that ROS is not legal for US
Amateurs to use.  They say it violates the FCC band on amateur spread
spectrum modes.  The last time I looked there was a great deal of
disagreement on whether not this was true, but for US amateurs that makes no
difference.  The Funny Cookie Company has spoken, and we must obey! :-)

73,

Carl
N8VZ
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Brendan Minish
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:06 AM
To: Dave ve3wej
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] ROS

On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 19:56 -0400, Dave ve3wej wrote:
> just another new digital mode

Not quite no..

ROS mode can only be done using the proprietary ROS software, there are
no published specifications on the various ROS modes and all the
development is being undertaken by one author who does not appear to
hold an amateur radio licence or engage in much dialogue with the
amateur radio community.

The lack of published technical specifications is enough to make the
legality of using the ROS modes very questionable in many
jurisdictions. 

The reason we are seeing so very many spots for ROS is not because it's
now far more popular than SSB but because most versions of the ROS
software generates DXSPOTS for all QSO's (and pretty much everything
heard too) automatically, without the user's knowledge or permission,
using the user's call sign.
 It does this via means of a number of hard coded cluster nodes, the
Author of the ROS software has never asked any of the DXcluster sysops
if it's ok.
The ROS software does not use spots AT ALL, the sole purpose of auto
spotting everything appears to be to make the ROS mode look (much) more
popular than it is.

In other words Cluster spamming 

I attempt to filter out ROS spots on my cluster so if you want a
(mostly) rosmode free dxcluster feed then you may try connecting to
EI7MRE, it's in the Dxbase cluster list 

ei7mre.ath.cx port 7300 

73
Brendan EI6IZ (sysop EI7MRE Dxcluster) 


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "K2LS" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:07 PM
> Subject: [Dxbase] ROS
> 
> 
> > Well,
> >
> > Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water..
> >
> > I'm now seeing more ROS spots with ROS6   ROS 18 etc, in the text.
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > DXC.K2LS.COM
> > Spots from NA zones 1 - 8 Only
> >
> >
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