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From: Brad Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Vincent Cate'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Brad Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], e$@vmeng.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Secure Accounts Ltd history and Sean Hastings
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:45:14 -0500
Vince,
Thank you for including me in your response. Making no attempt to mediate
your dispute, I tried to help a friend who wanted more information so I
forwarded it to others I thought might be able to help (apparently, we run
in the same circles). While my approach is from the public policy side, I
suspect we are all fighting for the same thing: stopping the government from
violating our rights and giving individuals more choices.
Regards,
Bradley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Cate [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e$@vmeng.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Secure Accounts Ltd history and Sean Hastings
>
>
> Sean,
>
> the work you did was for Secure Accounts Ltd. On ever piece of code you
> wrote you put "Copyright Secure Accounts Ltd." (as did other programmers).
>
> From the start the idea was to publish the source when the product was
> launched. This did not mean releasing all rights to our work. We
> intended
> to make it free for small users but to make banks/stock-exchanges and
> other
> big users pay.
>
> Your claim that I agreed to open source the patent so you signed over the
> rights to me is a lie. The rights belonged to Secure Accounts Ltd all
> along. I bought out your shares in Secure Accounts Ltd for the price you
>
> asked for. I never "originally agreed" to this. In the last month you
> tried to talk me into it and I decided not to.
>
> If you are out to harm my company, I don't want you to have free accounts
> on my machines any more (Linux security as poor as it is and all) so I am
> closing the accounts you have with me. Please fill out the form at
> http://nic.ai/ and send it in to let me know what nameservers you want
> for
> your domains (like hastings.ai). Most people in Anguilla seem to use
> pair.com to host domains as they are good and low priced.
>
> -- Vince
>
>
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: FW: Preventing a bad Patent
> >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:18:16 +0000
> >From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], e$@vmeng.com,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >--- begin forwarded text
> >
> >From: Brad Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: FW: Preventing a bad Patent
> >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:31:24 -0500
> >Sean is a friend and fellow traveller down the freedom path. If you could
> >offer any advice, suggestions or referrals, it would be most appreciated.
> >(he is affliated with HavenCo and Sealand, on the front lines protecting
> our
> >privacy rights!). Thanks.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sean Hastings [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:27 PM
> > > To: Bradley Jenson
> > > Subject: Preventing a bad Patent
> > >
> > > Bradley,
> > >
> > > I am asking your advice in this matter, as you are more connected to
> > > government stuff than anyone else I know. I did some design work on
> > > electronic monetary systems when I was living in Anguilla several
> years
> > > ago.
> > > My Partner Vince Cate is currently trying to patent the work we did.
> > > Originally he agreed that if he received this patent he would open
> source
> > > it
> > > for all to use freely, so I signed the rights over to him. I didn't
> have
> > > any
> > > time to do anything with it anyway. Now it looks as if he actually
> intends
> > > to license the patent for a fee if he gets it, and this will have
> harmful
> > > effects on open source eCurrency systems already in existence (of
> course I
> > > did not get his promise not to do this in writing). I do not want to
> see
> > > another case like the RSA patent, or the digicash blinding patent,
> both of
> > > which have chilled the development of an online free markets for
> years. I
> > > also don't think the work is particularly patantable, but I would
> rather
> > > not
> > > risk it if there is something I can do. Do you know how I can prevent
> a
> > > patent from being awarded to him? Do you know anyone who would be able
> to
> > > help me in this matter?
> > >
> > > --Sean Hastings
> > > --mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > --http://sean.hastings.ai
> > > --vmsg/fax:1.800.why.sean
> >--- end forwarded text
> >
> >--
> >-----------------
> >R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
> >44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
> >"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
> >[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable
> >toexperience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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