Excellent Frank    ....very well presented.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Zuchristian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: KvK Chamber of Commerce


> Dear offshore surfer,
>
> The "Kamer van Koophandel" (Chamber of Commerce) in
> the Netherlands is diferrent than in most countries
> that I have been in.  They are not just a collector of
> fees and forms (though they do that too).  They are in
>  fact proactive, we had to make adjustments to both
> the paperwork and the site to meet their requirements.
>
> Furthermore, you cannot get a tax number (see our
> about us page) without being registered.
>
> The banks, in the Netherland, not only will not open a
> business account with it, but will delve deeper than
> that, as they are very concerned about any activity
> that might damage their reuputations.
>
> Our ISP is based in the Netherlands, once again, not
> only did we have to submit the proper registrations,
> but also, they view the site for compliance with Dutch
> law.
>
> This cost us many meetings, and elapsed time of about
> a month before we could legitimately open our doors
> for business.  Though painful, at the time, we AGREE
> with those policies.  We have taken this a step
> further, by placing their logo and a link to their
> site (it is also in English) at the top of our entry
> page.  We are not required to do so, nor was it
> suggested that we do.  However, we take our
> responsibility, in the handling of financial
> transactions or others very seriously.  Our about us
> page gives you all the details, including telephone
> numbers, which will be answered by us, or overnight by
> our computer.
>
> We have started a private group at Yahoo, for the
> benefit of our clients.  The first posting includes
> links, that our clients can use to educate themselves
> on how to spot a possible scam or fraud operation.
> When we hear of one we post for the benefit of our
> clients.  We also post virus warnings, e-gold related
> matters and news regarding our srvices (ie additions,
> changes, bank holdiays).  All new clients are invited
> to join.
>
> E-gold requires documentation of MM's, included in
> that is a picture ID, and they also view the site
> before adding a potential MM to the list.  I think
> that you will find, these are isolated incidents,
> regretable as they are, but that MM's on the whole act
> responsibly and are cognizant of their
> responsibilities.
>
> The MM's are currently forming an "Alliance" which,
> hopefully will address some of these concerns.  You
> must understand, that being spread out all over the
> world, this is a very difficult task.  MM's have also
> put up monies to try to locate and stop scammers, we
> want them off the net.
>
> Hopefully, this has answered your questions, if not
> please feel free to email or call me on the listed
> numbers.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Frank
> EuroGoldLine Admin
> http://www.eurogoldline.nl
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Do e-gold MMs require licensing in the way that
> > regular change
> > offices/cambios do? I seem to remember seeing
> > something about this on the
> > e-gold site a while back... AFAIK the Chamber of
> > Commerce thing is just a
> > company registration which anyone can get just by
> > filling in a few forms?
> >
> > offshoresurfer
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank Zuchristian"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "e-gold Discussion"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: 27 April 2001 10:36
> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Flatrategold.
> >
> >
> > > EuroGoldLine , like many of the other MM's also
> > posts
> > > their information plainly on their pages.
> > >
> > > We take it a step further by providing and
> > independent
> > > link to verify with the KvK (Chamber of Commerce)
> > > which regulates us.  Our providor also requires
> > and
> > > checks all of this information.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > EuroGoldLine Admin
> > > --- Vince Callaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For my own curiosity I did a couple of lookups
> > on
> > > > flatrate gold.  Using
> > > > the tools that I use to validate users I came up
> > > > with the following:
> > > >
> > > > Domain registration:
> > > >
> > > > Administrative Contact:
> > > >     Collins, DuPree  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >     2819-112 Street
> > > >     Suite #304E
> > > >     Edmonton, Alberta T6J 4M3
> > > >     CA
> > > >     780-988-9077
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The phone number is listed to:
> > > >
> > > > I Kutzner
> > > > 4616 106a St NW 901
> > > > Edmonton, AB T6H 5J5
> > > >
> > > > The website is hosted by virtualave.net which is
> > a
> > > > free hosting site.
> > > > Anyone can go in and signup, no info required.
> > > >
> > > > I did a search in canada and there are no
> > listings
> > > > for DuPree Collins, but
> > > > there are about 50 D Collins.
> > > >
> > > > In contrast it takes about 2 seconds to get my
> > home
> > > > address and phone
> > > > number, plus I list my office address on my
> > website
> > > > with a map.
> > > >
> > > > Draw your own conclusions.
> > > >
> > > >
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