At 04:46 PM 12/2/2001 -0500, CDK wrote: >Hello, > >This message serves to announce the availability of PRIVACY.LI, a service >site to foster electronic privacy. > >We offer anonymous remailers, which can also RECEIVE mail real time! Only >accepted form of payment is e-gold!.
I would like to know more about the people who are offering these anonymizing services, since, ironically enough, their discretion and reputation is essential to creating and maintaining confidence among their clients that the anonymizing is really provided as promised. I went and looked to see who holds the PRIVACY.LI domain name - it's recorded as Debax, Inc. Lee Nguy Internet Hosting Casino Str, Bryan Bldg.,309-95 4537 PH-1200 Palanan, Makati, Metro Manila Philippines .. the hostname "privacy.li" resolves to the IP address 212.204.235.51 right now, and a traceroute to that address suggests that the machine is located in Amsterdam - traceroute to privacy.li (212.204.235.51), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets [...] 4 sl-gw12-sj-1-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.217.17) 11.506 ms 11.808 ms 13.102 ms 5 sl-bb25-sj-6-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.141) 12.724 ms 14.209 ms 12.692 ms 6 sl-bb22-sj-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.209) 198.434 ms * * 7 144.232.9.86 (144.232.9.86) 14.856 ms 14.496 ms 15.197 ms 8 acr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net (206.24.194.62) 84.649 ms 85.654 ms 83.724 ms 9 bcr2-so-6-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net (206.24.193.226) 167.786 ms 166.522 ms 166.543 ms 10 208.173.209.182 (208.173.209.182) 167.234 ms 168.065 ms 166.979 ms 11 212.204.235.51 (212.204.235.51) 169.205 ms 168.083 ms 168.544 ms The privacy.li website itself says, regarding the principals/operators of the service: "Company Profile Actually, this is not to be published here:-) A privacy service like ours is best if not too many details are known, we hope you fully understand and support this. The makers of this page are veterans at the chosen subject, and will under no circumstances jeopardize your privacy." .. which sounds like BS to me; these guys want to handle payments and provide privacy services, which are both very sensitive tasks, but don't want others to know who they are, where to find them, or what they've done in the past. (Not that there's anything wrong with privacy - it's a basic human right, and a very good thing. But if I'm going to trust someone with my money, or my identity, I want to know about both their competence and their fidelity, and it's pretty hard to reach that level of trust with an anonymous entity.) I also looked for "Debax, Inc." on Google, and found this page <http://www.appleby.net/netscam/FPCscam.html> - which is operated by a person who claims that the people behind privacy.li are also operators of a privacy consultancy which took USD $2000 as a bank wire from a potential client for a Panamanian shelf corporation with a Swiss bank account, control of which was never delivered as promised. It would, of course, be very good to learn that a reputable anonymizing or payment-processing service is available for projects of a sensitive nature - but I can't say that the information easily available to me has yet inspired confidence in this venture. Perhaps the folks at privacy.li would like to provide more details about their personnel and operation? Even assuming, arguendo, that they are reputable privacy consultants from time immemorial, I'd still like to hear about the technical backgrounds of the people who built the system(s) which provide the services - the most honest and discreet people in the world can't run a useful privacy service on top of a system which is infested with hostile intruders. -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961 Eliminate due process, civil rights? It's the Constitution, stupid! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
