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>All it does is filter the image. >Get it to assign appropriate ASCII values to those graphics and then >you got a threat -- not to difficult to do. > Parker, what the HELL are you talking about? What's got into you man? You're talking out your ass! :) To comment that "all it does is filter the image" is nuts man! It's quite tricky, difficult and subtle. If it's so easy, someone else do it. Geesh! (If it's a case of "all it does" ... why does e-gold even bother using a turing test image? eh?) (I don't think you know what "filter" means technically in this context anyway, and as it happens, the approach used has nothing,whatsoever, to do with filtering.) The final stage (using OCR software to write down the number) is trivial. It's so trivial I didn't even bother doing it. (I'll add it for you man!) Once you have 6 digits, clear, in a tidy line, the job is done. The point of the /alanbot is just that (for a laugh) ISL made a cool little de-turing-er for the current e-gold approach. >For Turing Test to be more effective, based on current technologies, >(though eventually Turing Tests will be completely useless) colors need >to be involved, plus the turing region needs to move around the screen >and each graphical character needs to be significantly distored in a >random way (to make ASCII assignments difficult) As a matter of fact, "colors" (hue, luminance, chroma, whatever) mean almost nothing. "Moving the region" around the screen does almost nothing. If you mean jiggling the individual letters on the image, e-gold's current approach DOES that, it's one of the things the /alanbot attacks, and it's well-understood how to defeat that. "significantly distorting" the characters is no big deal (the topology is not changed) As I already commented when this was a topic of discussion -- probably the best way known currently to make difficult-to-defeat "turing" images, is .... .. to use dimensional 3d characters, rotated randomly on all axis, ramdonly lit, sized, edged. Humans can easily figure it out, but it's a spectacularly difficult computing problem (it's a true AI problem, not just some mucking about with gifs). I already posted some examples of this (we'd have to look through the archives to see them) when it was a topic of discussion! >PECB -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Most of the world's great religions are hijacked from time to time by men who use the religious faith of others to manipulate them for self- serving purposes. Environmentalism is different however. It is not a religion that happens to be manipulated from time to time for political purpose--for the power and money it can bring to its controllers. Environmentalism is a religion which has been deliberately created, for the sole purpose of manipulating its followers." Arthur B. Robinson, 2001. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
