JMR> e-gold does not take it upon itself to do this, absent a court JMR> order!
That is a good point if it is true, but you don't wait for any Court order to put a limit on any account that you FEEL suspicious ! JMR> Really? I'm not! Why would they do such things?!? Where in their JMR> account agreement does it mention "monitoring for lots of spends, JMR> so we can protect idiots from themselves"? How are you sure of JMR> something like this, anyway? Any actual evidence? Evidence ? No of course, how could I ? "I am sure" doesn't mean "I can prove" :-) But as we also are developpers, it seems natural to have some alert systems, for example to protect against hacking attempts etc. JMR> 2 different businesses, but e-gold behaves according to its JMR> seldom-read account user agreement...Currency exchanges are free JMR> to have their own policies. Some have, in the past, promoted JMR> scams, even when it was blatantly-obvious they were scams. Go JMR> read the list's archives if you doubt me... I have no doubt that some MM are scammers, don't worry :-) I have also no doubt that MOST of them (if not ALL) will kindly close their eyes and don't ask too many questions for high volume of exchange - that means high fees for them. I perfectly know that the "conditions" that are written on the websites can be turned off for requests when it means a lot of $$$ ! JMR> I guess so. He's not in the directory, either, is he?? Should he JMR> be censored for his economic ignorance when he's not a scammer JMR> himself (well, directly)? He's an amateur journalist who writes JMR> about questionable stuff, IMO. IMO, e-told is one of those who gets the most benefits from all scams around. Amateur journalist ? If any "journalist" would offer such tribune to scammers anywhere in the world, he wouldn't stay journalist for a long time ! >>By allowing some admins to publish their "results" every day before >>they disappear, e-told is DIRECTLY involved in their scams. JMR> I don't get their letters, but that's certainly possible. If so, JMR> what should e-gold do about this person's speech? I want the JMR> folks who think the Earth is flat to use e-gold, I totally think JMR> the world is round, though. I do not ask e-gold to change their policy, every body is free. I simply point that when "the crowd" crucifies some market-makers, people should better look at everybody, including e-gold itself. >>IMO anyway, I think that people should be adult, and if they loose >>what they earned bybeeing stupid, well... That's their problem. JMR> Agreed. So you'd do exactly what e-gold does, then?? hmmm... The past owner of Mariman decided to shutdown ALL domains that he was hosting, 2 years ago, that were HYIPS. I saw his files, there were a lot. He decided that after receiving a few complaints about scams. Now such domains have moved to another hosting company (that is also reading this list too...). On my side I will also decline all kinds of "investment programs", we are naive enough to have a certain degree of morality :-) My opinion is that idiots should be scamed one or 2 times to know what is life, BUT I won't participate in the scam ! >>But so, no difference of treatment should be made between e-gold >>that "isn't a cop" and market-makers that "aren't cops". And who >>both make profits from the scammers :-) JMR> Once again, the myth. Look, full time employees are EXPENSIVE! JMR> e-gold makes LOSSES on scams, they're UNPROFITABLE for it!! Why JMR> do you think I'm so welcoming & accommodating on this list? I saw some files about a domain that was hosted at Mariman some years ago. A HYIP that turned to a big scam (That is right after that, that all HYIPS were shutdown from the servers). There were an average 1500 transactions by day. How much does e-gold earn on a transaction ? At that time, I think it was $0.50. That means $750/day fee... JMR> Exactly. TGC isn't a scam, IMO (but who knows!). What I'm trying JMR> to convey is that unlike you seem to think, there are shades of JMR> grey in all this. Black and white would be obvious scams like JMR> OSgold, but a lot of stuff out there is on the edge of JMR> legitimate, IMO. HOW can a "program" that offers for example 1% a DAY can be legitimate? If you know how they do, tell me please ! JMR> Should e-gold try to kill JP's 1MDC, for example? He's awfully JMR> secretive, you know, and he pays that storage fee. Suspicious JMR> guy, eh? ;) OOps NO NO, we trust him, concretely :-) BTW the diference between what he offers (2% a year) and what HYIPS offer, hmm ? JMR> No, a lot of them claim to invest in other scams, believe it or JMR> not. That's the story of a famous "market maker" from the Netherlands, I think ? LOL ! JMR> They may not be all that bright, but some of them *are* honest to JMR> their prospective victims about all the stupidity...Additionally, JMR> in this very thread we've seen presumably-legitimate explanations JMR> for very high returns (not that I'd want to risk some of them!). JMR> Do you have any idea how many shades of grey there are? I don't. I know some people that make easily 50% in a year, on large amounts, in honest business. But such people don't need the internet nor e-gold to do their business... JMR> I've seen plenty of 'em couch themselves in "game" terms, too. I JMR> see a lot of this stuff because I deliberately get spam. I'd say JMR> the minority these days say 'invest' and the majority say 'game.' Yes sure, but you are able to see the difference between a game and an investment, I guess ! JMR> PS Guys, you're takin' after US journalists! I don't OWN any JMR> .45s! (I have some .45 ammo because .45s are quite common, but I JMR> use other calibers for target and self-defense stuff.) Better to use Kalachs ! Stan Mariman Center www.mariman.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
