About a new e4 tools project? I think that is not necessary, we could
graduate e4 tools also from the existing project. The issue IMHO is that
that we need a new project but that no one does real work on this item at
the moment.

FYI - I plan to integrate the e4 project wizard for Mars into PDE.

Best regards, Lars


2014-07-30 11:08 GMT+02:00 Jonas Helming <jonas.helm...@googlemail.com>:

>  Any comments on this?
>
>
> Am 25.07.2014 14:04, schrieb Jonas Helming:
>
> Hi,
>
> The second issue has been discussed a year ago with no result. But I agree
> that having the tools in an incubation state and additionally not in the
> release train is bad for the adoption. As the e4 project is an incubation
> project, it cannot produce 1.0 releases. The options were to move them to
> PDE or the platform, but there was never a conclusion to this.
> I would like to suggest a third solution: create a new e4 tools project.
> This would enable us to graduate the e4 tools easily, keep all existing
> (and interested) comitters and join the release train.
> I would be willing to drive this, if everybody agrees.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Jonas
>
> Am 25.07.2014 13:14, schrieb Olivier Prouvost:
>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I am on holidays and cannot test the new release...
>
>  Some remarks anyway :
>
>  As tom said, I think the dialogs/windows node is really confusing and
> dialogs are not usable as it is today. It would be really interesting to
> start a new discussion on this topic as soon as possible to find together
> an operational and efficient solution. It should probably not appear as it
> is now in the stable version..
>
>  Another remark concerns the release number .. Are the e4 platform and
> tools always considered as incubation projects ? In this case industry will
> not adopt it easily.. It is really the moment to have a 1.0 e4 tools
> version. I know it is psychological but it is important.
>
>  For input parts I don ´t remeber the discussion which led to their
> deprecation. But AFAIK it would be possible to find them by annotation
> analysis (input part is a part having a method @Persist) ? This could be a
> new api on partservice to get them ?
>
>  Regards
> Olivier
>
>
> Le 25 juil. 2014 à 12:58, Sopot Çela <sopotc...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>   I did some testing and I think we can 'release' this. We can address
> Tom's concerns along the way. I tested also the live editor and did not
> notice any freezing.
>
> Sopot
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Schindl <tom.schi...@bestsolution.at
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The editor currently allows to add dialogs & wizards who are provisional
>> APIs, shouldn't the tooling show this to the user?
>>
>> Same goes for InputPart which is marked as deprecated - although I voted
>> against that deprecation - and should be shown like this!
>>
>> I also just fixed a minor problem with CompositePart part which now
>> allows you to set the title, icon, ... .
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 23.07.14 18:00, Lars Vogel wrote:
>> > It is not yet solved, but Steven found a workaround. I recently noticed
>> > that keybinding for cut and paste are also not working. I think we need
>> > to fix that least the keybinding thing. I plan to look at that next week
>> > (if no one else fixes it before that).
>> >
>> > Best regards, Lars
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-07-22 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Webster <pwebs...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca
>>  > <mailto:pwebs...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>>:
>> >
>> >     On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@gmail.com
>>  >     <mailto:lars.vo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi,
>> >
>> >         I gave the e4 tools a quick test and if I open the "Live model
>> >         editor" the IDE freezes (reacts very slowly). Can someone
>> retest?
>> >
>> >         Bug report:
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=439511
>> >         I think we should wait with publishing the tools to the market
>> >         place until this is fixed.
>> >
>> >
>> >     What's the status of this?  It's holding up our 0.16 stable
>> checkpoint.
>> >
>> >     Later,
>> >     Paul
>> >
>> >     --
>> >     Paul Webster
>> >     Hi floor.  Make me a sammich! - GIR
>> >
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