I think Bone is wrong here. The instrument Wagner refered to in 
Mesitersinger was the lute, not the guitar. The main character of 
Mesitersinger, Sixtus Beckmesser, was of course a lute player. Ginastera 
evokes Beckmesser as "phantasmagoria" at the end of the second movement of 
hisguitar sonata, the guitar and lute playing their part oin the constant 
"discussion" of Western and New World cultures that permeate the piece 
(also, perhaps, a reference to Ginastera's Beckmesser-like purloining of 
music by another composer at a specific point in the movement - Britten - 
though Beckmesser was innocent).

SY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: [EARLY-GUIT] Wagner and the guitar


> According to Bone:
>
> ''The immortal dramatic composer and poet displayed his interest in the
> guitar on several occasions and it is common knowledge that his 
> preliminary
> inspirations were frequently worked out on the guitar...the tuning of the
> instrument was elaborated by Wagner (in the Mesitersinger) into one of the
> most remarkable fugues ever conceived''
>
> Has anyone studied this and can verify if true? It seems extraordinary 
> that
> Wagner would use the tuning of a guitar to use as the basis for a fugue...
>
> Rob MacKillop
>
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