On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Jayne S Docherty wrote:
>
> This response, while humorous, only applies if you are willing to reduce
> human violence -- against people or the planet -- to testosterone. If
> that is the case and we are willing to say that about men, then we have
> accept that certain "female" behaviors are caused by our hormones. Are
> you willing to have someone explain your behavior as reducible to chemistry?
Actually, menopause has made me VERY aware of the fact that my behavior
can often be explained by chemistry; food allergies also make me aware of
this.
While I may resent it when someone implies that my behavior is, at a
particular moment, motivated by chemistry and not by conviction,
intellect or any other "correct" factor, the fact remains that chemistry
plays a part.
How about when you were pregnant, Jayne? Did you think, feel and behave
in the same ways then? Boy, feminist I might be (and I was even MORE of
one then), I can't get around the remarkable things which happened to me
during that intensely hormonal time.
What do our scientific list members say about this? Is it one of those
things, like the meat/veggie debate, upon which we must agree to disagree?
And if it's NOT testosterone, or some other uniquely "male" factor
responsible for the ills of the world, why, then, are we so mad at the
poor guys?
Faith
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 28 17:10:13 MDT 1995
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Faith Freewoman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Bertina Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Paradigm shift
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm sort of following on to Bertina's post musing over the frightening
side-effects of the Oklahoma City bombing ... militias, Limbaugh and the lot.
*I'M* worried about what's going to happen to our freedom on Internet;
even BEFORE this happened the Clinton administration was wanting to stick
a clipper "listen-in" chip into our computers in order "to thwart
terrorists." No telling WHAT they'll want to do now; and we'd best be
very alert.
Faith
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 28 19:23:41 MDT 1995
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 12:38:10
From: Wendi and Moojan Momen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: class is a part of Ecofem
Lines: 41
One of the problems of creating a list such as this one is that it
tries to seperate out a part of the world's problems and to deal with
them in isolation. Whereas in fact of course the problems facing the
world are hugely complex and inter-related. The fact is that the
problems of the environment and of feminism are part of and
inter-related with problems of racism, poverty and class within a
society, the North-South divide, the world's trade structure, the
lack of world economic stability, etc., etc.
As improving communications, decreasing trade barriers and an
integrated world economic structure become global realities, the
butterfly effect which is described in Chaos Theory can be seen
wreaking havoc around the world: an over-inflated property market in
Tokyo collapses sending the Tokyo stock exchange in a downward spiral,
leading to the withdrawal of Japanese money from the USA, leading to
job losses in a small town in the Mid-West, perhaps increasing the
xenophobic and paranoid mentality of some of the white males in that
town and being ultimately responsible for a bomb going off in
Oklahoma (some will no doubt pick holes in my sequence but I think you
get my drift).
We, as a world, are trying to cope with this new situation of
global interdependence using the political structures (and, with most
politicians, the political mentality) of nineteenth-century,
nationalist, racist, misogynist ideologies.
I do not know what can be done about this as a list because we
obviously cannot discuss all of the above factors and also keep this
list focussed. However, even if we decide to turn away from a more
general discussion, we should do it in the full knowledge that we are
thereby in a sense distorting or failing to gain a comprehensive view
of the whole situation.
--
Wendi and Moojan Momen
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