In a message dated 98-09-01 23:53:30 EDT, Jacob writes:
Regarding the book: "The Blade and the Chalice."
patriarchy was born, and can, from one vantage
point, be seen largely as a reaction to previously held womens priviledge
in a society that privileged women because of their seemingly miraculous
ability to recreate life
This actually makes sense. So she is saying that patriarchy was born of man's
fear of women's power to recreate life - so he needed to control that power in
order not to fear it! Wow! Excellent theory.
<< How does a militant
campaign of the responsabilities of reproduction to the women of the world
fit into the ecofeminist dialog?
Women should have the right to decide what they do with their bodies - this is
autonomy - why men ever thought they could decide all the moral decisions for
ever women/individual is just that misuse of power again - maybe they feel
either they stay in control/in power or women will get that power and that
frightens them? Everyone should stand up for women's rights - they are just
as worthy of autonomy as any male!
Regarding this: Pointing the blame - if you really want to blame this
EcoCrisis on something blame the first man and woman who lived on this Earth
for having sex - blame the Spirit of Creation for creating fertility - if that
had never happened you wouldn't even be born - all all this patriarchial
problems would be non-existent! So now that we know who and whats to blame
what do we do about it? Follow this kind of thinking - All men are to blame
for what a hand few of power seekers do to this Earth and the Women? NO - Do
we follow this thinking - The Holy Spirit of Creation is to blame for not
giving us clearer understanding of our creation? NO - because we have brains
- let's use them in conjunction with our hearts!
What we should do - 1st - stop promoting reverse discrimination, 2nd - empower
women with the power to make their own decisions - free them from bad
religions that do not align with individuality - God created us as individuals
for a reason - surely not be dominated by anyone - even God calls us partners
-
3rd and most of all: We need to celebrate, love, honor, respect, etc. the
feminine face of Creation so that we can recreate the balance that will create
peace and harmony- pull the power away from the people who are not obeying
with the true unwritten laws of life - tell them, write in across the sky -.
Heres something we can do for our future: Teach our children that there is a
feminine face of creation and no one has the right to veil/subdue/darken or
hide it for their own hidden agenda - Start a course on that - not on man
hating!
Thanks and Love,
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 2 05:15:53 1998
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:15:18 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Finding Spiritual Support for the Feminine Face of Creation
Hi!
I feel it is important to make this point:
Eventhough there are many religions and spiritual beliefs in this world it is
important to note that the 3 major religions (the patriarchial religions) are
the most powerful and the largests - thenceforth they have the most power over
the people they preach to - right - I am sure we agree on this -
Now, you need to support SPIRITUAL defense for women's rights to these 3
religions - Not hand them a paper saying YOU don't believe in God/you hate men
for being greedy - they don't care about your theories - they need spiritual
reasons to support your support for the feminine face of God - If you believe
in any spirit at all and it loves the femme - support what Chris is doing back
to the tree of life so that this can be resolved in a spiritual way - all
other avenues will send you a circle - you have to deal with the fact:
The 3 major religions are now in control and in power on this Earth - change
them so that there is a balance in favor of the female and then believe
whatever you want but if you want lasting change - change that!
Love,
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 2 07:57:38 1998
From: Sarah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Separatism and the paradox of the battered male
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:55:53 -0400
Forwarded from Tabitha Bast [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the anarchist
women's listserv.
A PERSONAL RESPONSE TO 101 MEN ON WOMEN ONLY SPACES
you say women only space is exclusive and sexist.
it is not sexist but is the autonomy to create our selves and our
sisterhood:if you suppose this to be sexism then you have little
understanding ov power relations. if you feel excluded, dear comrade,
then ask yourself why your male finger has to be in every pie, why you
want a slice and a say in every struggle, why you are so unready for
your gender privileges to be stripped from you.
you say, gentle and standing too close, that you understand women need
the space to escape sexual dynamics and feel safe from sexual predators.
it is worse than you feared. in our cock-free space there are enough
fast and crude innuendos to laugh at, there are hot hearts and swollen
lips, there are looks enough and touch enough that Shiva's saliva
moistens my thighs.
you say that it is not constructive to sit and bitch about men.
but it is rare that we remember you, we are so full ov ourselves and
each other.
you say, you understand, you understand, because those mixed meetings
that are loud and raucous and men dominate with their mighty voices and
confident opinions but after the revolution we will not need it and
i have to interrupt
you are wrong.
i am a woman with the confidence ov a dragking pirate and i can drink
him out and shout him under and my cherished women's space is not my
retreat ov fear but the fulfilment ov my desires, it is not need that
drives me here. i enter freely, even without the hounds ov machismo
yapping at my flat heels. when we tear up patriarchy, when there is no
more rape and no more mills and boon, then i still want space for me and
my warrior sistas.
i tell you, whether you understand or not, whether you agree or not, it
is ov little consequence. i am bored ov the discussion and i am weary ov
explanation. i need no permission and i do not request your
understanding. if it rattles your male ego it is not my concern to
suckle you better. if you impress upon me your support i am not so
grateful i will thank you for it.
brother, lover, fellow activist, friend: three words.
deal with it.