I haven't participated in the list 'til now, but I've been thinking about 
ecofeminism a lot lately, and I wanted to throw out a question on just 
what constitues ecofeminism.

I'm part of an ecofeminism working group at the Ontario 
Public Interest Research GRoup (OPIRG), here in Guelph.  I wrote an 
article for the OPIRG newsletter this week on the topic of ecofeminism 
because it's still an unknown term and philosophy for many people, even 
those in environmental and social justice movements.  My problem was 
this:  our working group spent much of its energy after its inception on 
exploring for ourselves the ideas behind ecofeminism.  One of the more 
inspired definitions was "the 'ism' to replace all other 'isms'".  

While 
the term ecofeminism itself links only ecology and feminism, the members 
of our group come from various activist and academic backgrounds and 
could not help but "make the links" between sexism (masculism), 
ecological destruction, AND other forms of oppression--racism, 
colonialism, heterosexism...  We see similarities in the 
oppressive stuctures and ideologies behind the repression/ aggressive 
devaluing of nature and various groups of people.  In our view, the 
movement toward health in our relations with each other and with the 
earth involves all people working for true sustainability; 
community decision-making; aboriginal justice; human rights; true and 
meaningful equality 
between the sexes, the races and ethnicities, the north and south, the 
differently-abled, gays, lesbians, bisexual and heterosexual people. 

My questions have been arising because ecofeminist theory, what I have 
read until now, incorporates some of these "links," but no where have I 
yet found an entirely holistic view.  Our group works under the label of 
ecofeminism, and I have begun to wonder if it is wrong to make an 
ideology into something it is not--though, at the same time,  I'm not 
convinced that is exactly what we have done.

Tzeporah--(if you have time to read this)--I am wondering if, in your 
work compliling an ecofeminism bibliography, you have come across ideas 
about the interconnectedness of most (if not all) forms of oppression (and, 
conversely, movements for liberation), and the place of this analysis in 
ecofeminism.  I'd love to read on this topic.  [P.S. I noticed you were 
living on Bowen--I'm a west coaster (born on Texada Is., in the Georgia 
Strait) transplanted in Southern Ontario.  I miss the wind, the cedars, and 
the islands.]


        Juniper Glass   
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 15 12:40:10 MST 1994
    Tue, 15 Nov 94 14:43:12 GMT-5
From: "Brian A. Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization:  University of Dayton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:          Tue, 15 Nov 1994 14:42:49 EST
Subject:       rape and the state


> 
> >>  How would you deal with a rape case
> 
> >This presupposes that the present system effectively reduces rape.
> >It doesn't.  It's not designed to.  Rape is intricately linked with
> >male dominance, and the police/prison system helps to maintain male
> >dominance. 
> 
> How does the prison system help to maintain male dominance in this context?  If

In this context, one could mention the historical and present 
treatment of rape by the legal system, namely as a crime of one man 
against another man, by damaging "his" property.  This perpetuates 
male dominance by furthering the notion of women as men's 
possessions.  Also, rapism is furthered, not countered, by the prison 
system.  In prison, as in society at large, rape is a means of 
establishing power, directly over the person raped, and indirectly 
over all the others terrified of being raped.  Outside prison, all 
women are targets for rape, and all women are taught to be afraid of 
rape and constrict their behavior "appropriately."  Prison recreates 
this system.  There are no women in men's prisons, but an underclass 
completely analogous to women is created from amongst the younger, 
smaller men.  Not all of them are raped, but all men in prison are 
afraid of being raped, and this fear functions as a control mechanism 
is prison just as it does for women in general outside prison.  This 
is relevant to the establishment and maintenance of patriarchy 
because patriarchy, or "father rule" is not just men over women, but 
older men over younger men (white men over black men, rich men over 
poor men, etc.). In fact the two hierarchies, men over women and men 
over other men, are intricately linked to each other.  


> rapists can rape with impunity, how many more men would commit rapes?  Studies
> indicate that a lot more would (at least they say they would).  

I've seen those studies.  The problem is that the police/prison/legal 
system, if it's deterred any rapes it's only been those that 
destabilize patriarchy, ie., one man raping a woman "belonging" to 
another man (a "faithful" wife or a virginal daughter).  This creates 
the impression that other women can be targetted for rape, including 
prostitutues, those perceived as promiscuous, and one's own wife or 
girlfriend.  Recently because of feminist agitation some states have 
recognized marital rape as a crime, which is a step in the right 
direction.  


  You just don't
> answer my question.  I suggested that rape cases would be impossible for
> "concerned citizen groups" to deal with.  You answer by saying that our current
> system doesn't reduce rapes.  First of all, you are skirting the question. 

Woman-centered self-defense training, speak-outs, educative efforts, 
women's self-defense networks (e.g., the group of women at some 
college (Brown?) who told each other which men were rapists--this 
organizing was stamped out by the administration, I believe.),  
men's anti-rape groups, etc.   


> Secondly, if you don't think our system reduces rapes, consider the amount of
> rape that occurs when no authority is around to punish it.  Consider the amount
> of rape in Bosnia, as just one example.  In fact, it is not government, but
> anarchy that maintains male dominance.  

This statement is an exact reversal of reality.  Military rape 
occurs because the officers either directly order it (as in Bosnia) 
or tacitly condone it (as in most american wars), or both.  The 
preparation of the male soldier for rape starts the first day of boot 
camp, where the boys' sexual energy is harnessed for aggression.  The 
default enemy is always the woman, the default weapon is the penis.  
This is why militarism and rape always go together.  


  Left to themselves, the uncivil amongst
> males are going to assert their physical dominance to the fullest extent.
> 

Conservatives make statements like this all the time, to defend the 
status quo, whereas if a feminist made this statement, she'd be called 
a man-hater or a reverse sexist, because it implies that men are 
naturally evil.  Human males are not naturally evil, we're taught to 
be that way.  There are societies in which no men rape.  They are 
societies in which women are respected, not societies with violent  
centralized governments.  

Brian
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 15 14:18:04 MST 1994
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 15:19:58 CST  
From: "Mary Elizabeth Braun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ecofem bibliog.

To Tzeporah et al.   The bibliographic essay in the June 1993 issue of
CHOICE magazine is "Remapping the Terrain: Books on Ecofeminism."  I'm not
familiar with much of the literature on ecofeminism, but the essay does 
discuss many books.  It's written by Linda Vance, a professor of
environmental history, women's studies, and environmental ethics at Vermont
College.
Mary Braun
Geography, UW Madison
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 15 18:44:39 MST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 17:47:58 -0800
From: Sue vanHattum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anarchism, briefly

well, i'm about a week late, but i wanted to respond on this. i always 
think about the anarchist position on voting when it comes time to vote. 
i voted against the nasty propositions, and for money (taxes) for 
schools. is that inherently in contradiction to my sense that i'm an 
anarchist? i'm not sure...  ;-)

emma goldman spoke out against women's struggle for the vote in the 
decade before it was won (1910-1920). i haven't read those 
speeches/essays recently, so i can't say what her resoning was, exactly. 
i am currently reading love, anarchy, and emma goldman, by candace falk, 
and enjoying it. emma goldman is one of my heroes.

sue

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