Yeah, well, that may be true at some levels, and it may be true of Google. But, how many ecologists does Google hire?
The sciences require you to demonstrate excellence. You can overcome screw ups, everyone has them, even a strait A student. Each person has their skeletons, bruise spots and contrary opinions. The key is not being perfect, the key is demonstrating that you are more useful than those who think they are perfect. To be a good scientist, in theory, you must be strongly dedicated, highly motivated, capable of longterm and deep focus, of high energy, of high ethical standards and character, the kind that completes what you start, capable of insurmountable work loads, and you must have a high threshold for criticism. You must also be willing to stand up for what is right in the face of personal repercusions. NO ONE is great at all fo these things (and that is not a complete list). However, these key factors play an enormous role in your ultimate success. Providing evidence of your strong suits and willingness to strengthen the areas you know are not your strong suits are key things that will make you more competitive in the grad school market as well as the job force. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Andrea Campanella <acamp...@nmsu.edu> wrote: > > > Hi Angela and whoever might be interested in this topic: > > attached is a link that maybe will inspire somebody: > > > http://qz.com/180247/why-google-doesnt-care-about-hiring-top-college-graduates/ > > I believe that although it is important to do our best in everything we > do, some people just think differently from the majority and their brain > does not conform to established rules to which grades are a reflection of. > > In other words: some people really think out of the box and are those who > can make the difference. > > If you are one of them you will find your way to succeed with or without a > master. > > Best, > > Andrea Campanella > Lead Field and Data Research Associate > Alpine Treeline Warming Experiment > University of California, Merced > > “It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that > is poor.” > -Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4 BC-AD 65). > “Tell me, and I will forget. Show me, and I will remember. Involve me, and > I will understand." > - Confucius 450 BC > "Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.” > ― Dalai Lama XIV > “If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a > mosquito.” > ― Dalai Lama XIV > “Remember that sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke > of luck.” > ― Dalai Lama XIV > > ________________________________________ > From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news < > ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of John L. Koprowski < > squir...@ag.arizona.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:32 PM > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Graduate School GPA Question > > Hello Angela: > Your dream is not dead but the potential pathways to the dream are > more limited. The 3.0 GPA is a requirement at some schools but there > are many schools that have lower requirements or at least have > flexibility in accepting students with marginal grade points but with > solid GRE scores and/or excellent experience. You will have to search a > bit more to find these schools. The great news is that there are great > faculty mentors at virtually any school that you would attend due to a > competition for faculty positions. The admission process for many > programs permits input from individual faculty and so you will want to > make sure to correspond with and likely visit faculty at universities on > your list so that they get to know you and realize what you have to > offer as the perfect fit for their research program. Not all faculty > will be interested in participating in the process but the one's that > are represent the type of mentor that you will want to work with in your > graduate program. Another method that can be used is to enroll in > graduate courses as an 'undeclared (not associated with a specific > graduate program)' graduate student if the university permits (ours > does) and this will give you the opportunity to take classes that will > enable you to have a stronger GPA and get to know faculty. The drawback > is that you will have to pay for tuition; however, this can be a > worthwhile investment. Good luck as you try to find the right place > for you to continue your studies! John > > On 12/10/2014 9:46 AM, Angela Trenkle wrote: > > Dear Eco-loggers, > > I would like to go to graduate school to eventually get my > Master's. I > > have a lot of experience in my field, however as an undergraduate I had > > some setbacks so my GPA is below the 3.0 requirement that most schools > look > > for. Is my dream dead? Or are there ways that I can move past this and > > pursue my dream of getting my Master's? Thanks! > > -Angela Trenkle > > -- > Sincerely, > > John L. Koprowski, Professor > Wildlife Conservation and Management > School of Natural Resources and the Environment > 306 Biological Sciences East/127 Saguaro (Lab) > University of Arizona > Tucson, AZ 85721 USA > > http://www.ag.arizona.edu/research/redsquirrel > http://www.snr.arizona.edu/people/koprowski > http://www.ag.arizona.edu/~squirrel > > Phone: (520) 626-5616 (messages) > -- Malcolm L. McCallum, PHD, REP “Nothing is more priceless and worthy of preservation than the rich array of animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a many-faceted treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature lovers alike, and it forms a vital part of the heritage we all share as Americans.” -President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of 1973 into law. "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan Nation 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. 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