A note of caution on enthusiastic receptions from faculty when you offer to bring a project to their lab:

Of course all professors want to invite brilliant people with project ideas already formulated (especially when these people already have the skills to execute them). This is especially the case for grad school because professors know they ultimately own anything that goes on in their lab's airspace whether or not they had the slightest thing to do with it.

Be careful that you understand the motivations and the realities behind these enthusiastic responses to the idea of you coming with your own projects. * I, too, welcome people to bring me their ideas and projects so I can screen them and own my favorites. Anyone is welcome to conduct their research in my facility so long as I am senior corresponding author on any publications, owner of IP, named in all the press on the project, PI of any resulting grants and have full control and credit for the project and any resulting rewards - ESPECIALLY if the people come with the skillsets needed for the project and I don't have to spend any time training them. That's essentially what a professor is saying when they say "I welcome (or some demand, believe it or not) students coming with their own project ideas, skills to conduct them and especially with their own funding.". I've also seen faculty web sites where they openly solicit even other faculty and "visiting scholars" to come and do their work and sabbaticals in their labs. One such solicitation is worded very similarly to what I have written above. Who would turn that down? But, then again, who on the other side of that situation (ie: student, postdoc, etc.) would offer all of that to someone?

If it's too good to be true....


On 5/28/2015 5:59 AM, Dave Daversa wrote:
Hi Emily:

I was in a similar situation as you several years ago.  I had been working
with a system and foresaw a lot of opportunity to answer some
interesting/important ecological questions. I reached out to potential PhD
advisors, met with graduate students and thought ALOT about it all.  Not
one professor with whom I spoke looked down upon my proposing my own
project...to the contrary, this was viewed positively.  I ended up getting
this opportunity and am now finishing my PhD.  The experience has been
overwhelmingly positive and fulfilling, and has produced postdoc
opportunities to continue doing the research that interests me.

So go for it.  You will get rejections and discouragement.  You will get
frustrated and confused.  The key is to be persistent.

More practical advice:  research very well different professors and
research groups.  Send them well-drafted emails. Go and visit them.  Apply
for the NSF GRFP and other fellowships.  Even if you aren't successful,
they really help to formulate your thoughts.

Dave

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Malcolm McCallum <
malcolm.mccallum.ta...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you want to know what to do in graduate school, how to go about being in
graduate school, and how to be a success in graduate school, and
successfully find a job after graduate school,

Read this:
P.B. Medawar, Advice to a Young Scientist

http://www.amazon.com/Advice-Scientist-Alfred-Foundation-Series/dp/0465000924

It will be the best $5 (used) you ever spent.

or, read a free online copy and spend your $5 to get lunch and read the
entire thing while eating....
http://evolbiol.ru/medawar_advice/medawar.htm

Now, I will say that some of the advice after graduation is more attune to
someone in a research school or research-focused department.  That fish
won't bite in a teaching school, or a non-research school/department.

The guy won a Nobel Prize, he probably has a clue.

In any case, the bottom line is no two lives follow the same road.  Take
yours, and hopefully it will be fruitful.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Malcolm McCallum <
malcolm.mccallum.ta...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you want to know what to do in graduate school, how to go about being
in graduate school, and how to be a success in graduate school, and
successfully find a job after graduate school,

Read this:
P.B. Medawar


http://www.amazon.com/Advice-Scientist-Alfred-Foundation-Series/dp/0465000924
It will be the best $5 (used) you ever spent.

Now, I will say that some of the advice after graduation is more attune
to
someone in a research school or research-focused department.  That fish
won't bite in a teaching school, or a non-research school/department.

In any case, the bottom line is no two lives follow the same road.  Take
yours, and hopefully it will be fruitful.

malcolm

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Emily Mydlowski <
emilymydlow...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello all,

I'm delving into the graduate school search (MS and PhD programs) quite
heavily and am seeking advice regarding approaching faculty with a
research
project. The system I'm interested in working on is that which has many
unanswered, interesting questions I would love to pursue. From a faculty
perspective, is proposing a project topic (too) bold of a move to a
potential advisor?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

All the best,

Emily Mydlowski
Northern Michigan University



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