Hi,

Here are some more:
1) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0734975009001876
2) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800915306212
3) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167880911002805

Best,
Hossein
On Mar 22, 2017, at 01:49, Benjamin R. Runkle 
<brrun...@uark.edu<mailto:brrun...@uark.edu>> wrote:

Hi Jane and all
I can absolutely recommend this recent article:
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/3/e1602638.full
Many shades of gray—The context-dependent performance of organic agriculture

    Verena Seufert and Navin Ramankutty

Science Advances  10 Mar 2017:
Vol. 3, no. 3, e1602638
DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.1602638

It provides an extensive bibliography, a nice sense of nuance, and intriguing 
graphics. There is no “one answer” to this question.

Best regards,
Ben Runkle


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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Organic Agriculture

Hi
​
Phil,

Following two articles conducted meta-analysis to compare organic and 
conventional systems for different crops in terms of yield:

1. Seufert, V., Ramankutty, N. and Foley, J.A., 2012. Comparing the yields of 
organic and conventional agriculture. Nature, 485(7397), pp.229-232.

2. De Ponti, T., Rijk, B. and Van Ittersum, M.K., 2012. The crop yield gap 
between organic and conventional agriculture. Agricultural Systems, 108,      
pp.1-9.

Thanks
Debjani

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Ganter, Philip 
<pgan...@tnstate.edu<mailto:pgan...@tnstate.edu>> wrote:
Jane,
Just a note from someone who teaches an environmental science course.
First, which skeptical communities have you in mind?  Are they susceptible to 
data?
If I remember correctly, the Rodale Institute (2006, a bit dated) published 
data from a long-term study of corn yields comparing organic (not till and 
tilled) to conventional methods and to the Pennsylvania average (Rodale is in 
PA) and found that organic yield was higher, so it is not clear that you first 
assertion is true for all crops.  I am not aware of a review of conventional vs 
organic yields for lots of crops but I suspect one or several exist and, if you 
or someone else can give us the references, I would appreciate it.
The second part would need some specifics.  What sort of harm to the 
environment do you have in mind?  Certainly, organic methods look better for 
the environment than the ~325 million pounds of excess glyphosate spread across 
American fields in the years from 1996 until 2009 due to overuse of Roundup 
Ready crops (Union of Concerned Science report).  At first pass, I am having 
trouble imagining types of environmental damage organic farming makes worse but 
I might be missing the obvious, so could you be more specific.
One comment as well:  BASF had made the claim that their Haber-Bosch process 
made it possible for the Earth’s population to grow beyond 4 billion.  If their 
claim is valid in any sense, what is the most probable long-term outcome from 
agricultural  policy that always sets increased yield as its goal?

​​
Phil Ganter
Biological Sciences
Tennessee State University

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Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM
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Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Organic Agriculture

Lately, a lot of people in skeptical communities have been saying that not only 
does organic agriculture use more land than conventional, it's no better or 
even worse for the environment overall. What do those of you with expertise in 
agroecology think about this?

Jane

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