Thank you Ian and Dr. Cruzan for speaking up about these posts yet again. I am personally opposed to having these posts on Ecolog as well.
Assuming they won't stop, *I propose a new practice* of adding an obvious tag in the subject line. E.g., "[ECOLOG-L] *(Fee program)* Research Assistantship in..." Additionally, it may be appropriate for the listserv moderators to determine rules about what is appropriate on Ecolog; e.g., Ecolog may only be used to advertise volunteer and paid positions OR it may also be used to advertise these pay-to-play programs. Either way, an explicit determination would streamline these discussion threads that I've seen the listserv cycle through many times now. Best, Ari On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:09 PM cruzan <cru...@pdx.edu> wrote: > I am opposed to this type of advertisement. It is a commercial activity > and not one that is likely to provide a high quality education or research > experience. These organizations are more like tour experiences and they > should not be allowed to post on this list. > > Mitch Cruzan > > On 1/8/2019 10:05 AM, Ian Medeiros wrote: > > Advertising a program which costs $2700 as a "Research Assistantship" > strikes me as disingenuous. As I've said on this list before, I'm not > absolutely opposed to pay-to-participate programs being posted on ECOLOG, I > just think there needs to be more truth in advertising. The definition of > "assistantship" in Webster's starts with "a paid appointment..." and that > is how most people would interpret the title of this post—until they see > the price tag. - Ian > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:54 AM Field Projects International - Mini Watsa < > ad...@primates-peru.org> wrote: > >> Overview: Tamarins are notoriously difficult to track and identify in the >> wild, because of their diminutive size and morphological homogeneity. In >> this program, we monitor a population of ~14 tamarin groups, individually >> identifiable and radio-collared, to study their space use and means of >> communication. >> >> We collect data on adult scent gland morphology and scent-marking >> behaviour, another primary form of communication among tamarins. >> Participants will conduct full- and half-day follows of individually tagged >> primate troops, recording alarm calls and scent-marks alongside habitat use >> and feeding ecology. >> >> Program dates: June 3 – August 12, 2019 >> Start dates: June 3, June 17, July 1 >> Minimum stay required: 6 weeks >> Application deadline: April 14, 2019 for June start dates, May 14 for >> July start date. >> Program fee: $2700 for 6 weeks; $450 each additional week >> Appeals to majors: Anthropology, Biology, Wildlife Management, Psychology >> Training areas: Off-trail navigation, wildlife tracking, telemetry, focal >> behavioural sampling, spatial analyses. >> >> Program link: https://fieldprojects.org/research/ >> > > > -- > > Ian D. Medeiros > https://imedeirosbotany.wordpress.com > > Ph.D. student > Lutzoni Lab > Department of Biology > Duke University > Durham, NC, USA > > > > -- > ------------------------------ > Mitch Cruzan > Professor of Biology > Portland State University > PO Box 751 > Portland, OR 97207 USA > Web:https://cruzanlab.weebly.com/ > ------------------------------ > Evolutionary Biology - A Plant Perspective *Mitchell B. Cruzan* > * Available through all good bookshops, or direct from Oxford University > Press > <https://global.oup.com/academic/product/evolutionary-biology-9780190882679?cc=us&lang=en&#>* > ------------------------------ > -- Ari Yamaguchi MSc Integrative Biology Wilfrid Laurier University '20 (c) 519-729-1736 (e) ari.yamagu...@gmail.com, yama0...@mylaurier.ca