Concerning plastic barrels:: I have bought greenhouse plastic from  Northern
Greenhouse Sales of Neche ND.  In their cheerful catalog they claim to plant
vining crops in full barrels  down the center of hoophouses.  If you want to
start seedlings Jeff, this may not work for you.  No matter what the theory
I fail to see how  half submerged  water barrels will transfer much heat
into the ground.  With a compost thermometer one could try different set ups
and measure.  Before freeze up I framed the base for a 12 by 20 hoophouse
and  unloaded a pickup of cow manure compost into it.  When inspired this
winter  I plan to  cover it  and try a  row of half barrels down the center
in early spring.

The most ingenious greenhouse system I have ever read about  is that of  a
Joseph Orr of Laramie , Wyoming,  in May 78 Mother Earth News.  His was a
hot air collector that  blew heat into  wet earth  heat storage below the
greenhouse.  It is an active system  but the  major components of  the hot
air collector , fans ,  foam insulation, pvc pipe , and  the earth which was
there to begin with  were not overly exspensive considering the results;
tomatoes and tropicals yearround in Laramie with  no other heat. (Yes he did
use electricity but as I understand fans are not particularly energy
gluttons.)  This system  would not  be needed in your balmy climate, Jeff,
but for  those of us with over a foot of snow and likely  facing  at least 2
more months of the same it is attractive.

I plan a 14 by 20  shed greenhouse  on the sw side of my living room.
Presently  the area is sloped but averages 5 feet below living room floor
level so that construction would start with an insulated perimiter
foundation  and then infilling with  planting beds, heat storage,
watertanks, rockwork to bring it up to  desired levels.  I am considering
the above system and  or a  masonry system like used  in the earliest  New
England  colonial greenhouses .  However, my woodshop takes priority  this
year and I only hope to start on the foundation to make more level  sunny
gardening space.    vann


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