In the Growing Spaces dome greenhouses, they have you install common field tile under 
the raised beds and it comes up near the top of the dome where a muffin fan powered by 
a small solar PV module transfers some of the heat to the raised beds.  The plants 
keep a little longer when the roots stay warmer.  You can see some of their ideas at: 
http://www.growingspaces.com/

We will be adding our dome greenhouse after we build our passive solar earthship in 
the CO mountains in a couple years.  I plan to augment the solar heating by installing 
hydronic tubing in a sand bed under the raised beds in the greenhouse and using a DC 
magnetic impeller pump powered by a solar PV module to carry the heat of the solar hot 
water panels (non-toxic glycol/water solution).  In the middle of the greenhouse is a 
300 gallon water tank to raise aquatic plants and to be a thermal battery in winter 
and summer.  I want to experiment with adding a few loops of the hydronic tubing in 
their also.  Many customers add wood fired Snorkel hot tub also.  This is practically 
the only way to get fresh tomatoes at 9,000 feet where year round frosts are not 
uncommon sometimes.  The earthships itself has minor greenhouse space in the south 
side of the living area, but it stays warmer due to the large thermal mass of the 
rammed earth bermed structure in the home.

Dave

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David & Sheila Knapp 
Winnebago, Illinois
http://www.geocities.com/renewables/
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Van Hazinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ecopath] Re: Thoughts for 2001


> Concerning plastic barrels:: I have bought greenhouse plastic from  Northern
> Greenhouse Sales of Neche ND.  In their cheerful catalog they claim to plant
> vining crops in full barrels  down the center of hoophouses.  If you want to
> start seedlings Jeff, this may not work for you.  No matter what the theory
> I fail to see how  half submerged  water barrels will transfer much heat
> into the ground.  With a compost thermometer one could try different set ups
> and measure.  Before freeze up I framed the base for a 12 by 20 hoophouse
> and  unloaded a pickup of cow manure compost into it.  When inspired this
> winter  I plan to  cover it  and try a  row of half barrels down the center
> in early spring.
> 
> The most ingenious greenhouse system I have ever read about  is that of  a
> Joseph Orr of Laramie , Wyoming,  in May 78 Mother Earth News.  His was a
> hot air collector that  blew heat into  wet earth  heat storage below the
> greenhouse.  It is an active system  but the  major components of  the hot
> air collector , fans ,  foam insulation, pvc pipe , and  the earth which was
> there to begin with  were not overly exspensive considering the results;
> tomatoes and tropicals yearround in Laramie with  no other heat. (Yes he did
> use electricity but as I understand fans are not particularly energy
> gluttons.)  This system  would not  be needed in your balmy climate, Jeff,
> but for  those of us with over a foot of snow and likely  facing  at least 2
> more months of the same it is attractive.
> 
> I plan a 14 by 20  shed greenhouse  on the sw side of my living room.
> Presently  the area is sloped but averages 5 feet below living room floor
> level so that construction would start with an insulated perimiter
> foundation  and then infilling with  planting beds, heat storage,
> watertanks, rockwork to bring it up to  desired levels.  I am considering
> the above system and  or a  masonry system like used  in the earliest  New
> England  colonial greenhouses .  However, my woodshop takes priority  this
> year and I only hope to start on the foundation to make more level  sunny
> gardening space.    vann
> 
> 

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