You might add a third type.
Gorilla Software Vendorus.  The software application that dictates what EDI
data is needed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wakelam Paul (RBAU/LOG) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: 800 lb Gorillas - towards a new taxonomy (WAS Pickup Date vs .
Ship Date Designation in an 850 v. 4010)


> There seems to be two types of 800 lb EDI gorillas.
>
> GORILLA PACIFICUS seems to like working with others 800 lb gorillas.
> They join industry groups and work towards common standards.
>
> GORILLA HORRIBILUS is what I think many of the people sound like we have
> day-dreams of being.
> One mighty roar is what it takes to get your vendors to all do what you
want
> all the time.
> The vendors can not pass on the costs or complain because of fear.
>
> regards Paul
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david frenkel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:14 PM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Re: Pickup Date vs. Ship Date Designation in an 850 v.
4010
> >
> > That concept is often referred to as the 800 pound gorilla.
> > Dave Frenkel
> >
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: Peter Olivola <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:58 PM
> >       Subject: Re: Pickup Date vs. Ship Date Designation in an 850 v.
4010
> >
> >       This is easy to resolve.  The key is, this is your customer.  It
> > doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks is right.
> >
> >
> >       Peter Olivola ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> >
> >
> >        -----Original Message-----
> >       From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues [
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
> >       One of our customer's trading partners uses a code "010" in the
DTM
> > segment to mean either Ship Date, if our customer is to ship the
product,
> > or Pickup Date, if they choose to pickup the product.  The trading
partner
> > then enters "CC" in the FOB01 element if they want to pickup the
product,
> > or "PC" if they want the product shipped to them.
> >
> >
> >               It seems to me that the trading partner should use a code
> > "118" in the DTM segment to designate a requested pickup date, or a code
> > "010" to indicate a requested ship date, thereby designating both the
> > method of shipment and the date associated with it.
> >
> >               The use of payment terms to designate the method of
shipment
> > is very dangerous if, for example, the trading partner wanted our
customer
> > to ship the product on a collect basis.  The trading partner could not
> > have a product shipped to them on a collect basis using this approach.
> >
> >               Does anyone have any thoughts on other ways to resolve
this
> > confusion?
> >
>
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