Your colleagues are correct.

"Beecher, Anthony" wrote:
>
> Here is a fun semantics question:
>
> "This is used to indicate the relative position of a simple data element, or
> the relative position of a composite data structure with the relative
> position of the component within the composite data structure, in error; in
> the data segment the count starts with 1 for the simple data element or
> composite data structure immediately following the segment ID."
>
> I read this a meaning that a Composite should be counted a 1 element,
> regardless of the count of sub elements.
>
> So here is the example failing segment from HIPAA 837:
>
> SV1*HC:99212*100*UN*1*11*1*1**N
>
> I see that element 6 must not be used.
>
> So, I believe the AK4 segment in the generated 997 should be:
>
> AK4*6**3*1
>
> My colleagues are saying that each sub element should be counted, thus:
>
> AK4*7**3*1
>
> Would anyone care to endorse either of us? My reasoning is that, because
> AK401_02 is a place to indicate invalid subelements of composite elements,
> the SV101 composite counts as one element, not two, thus the error is in
> element position 6, not 7.
>
> Anthony Beecher
> EDI Consultant
>
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