Try 4 sales people and all from Extol. I have some private postings as well I would love to share to show the professionalism of your organization. Checking my ego at the door... Wayne Stewart wrote: > Being at least one, I think the only, salesperson who replied to this person > let me explain my point. While I did say all sales people were not > ethical/unethical my point was directed toward the programmers who are every > bit as unethical and misrepresentative. They will use a sales person, drag > them into a long waste of time and energy when they have absolutely no > intention of ever making a purchase. The reason sales people go over the > head of the programmer is to find out if a project is real, budgeted and to > get other opinions of what is needed. I'm sure there are programmers who > think they control the final decision on spending money or even the purchase > criteria but I find it a rare case when the final decision isn't made by > someone with a VP title after their name. > I did not want to post this as an open reply because I felt it was not a > relevant topic. When challenged I had to respond directly. > Sales people are used and use other just like everyone else. Sometimes by > answering a question or concern we try to open a dialog between people we > see as candidates for our products. Just as Rachel Forrester would like to > maintain her reputation she is also looking for consulting projects. We > provide a service and expect to get the respect we deserve. > And J. Glenn your ego is obvious in your postings, both private and public- > your looks have nothing to do with it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Glenn Thompson > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Was RE: Don't Call Me . . . Don't Hang Up Now Same Old Song and > Dance > > Evidently some salespeople took offense to my soap box monologue about > unethical salespeople, I repeat, unethical salespeople. These > individuals were naturally salesmen. They went on to tell me that all > salespeople were not unethical even though I stated that in my post. > They then went on to tell me about their company and products. > > DON'T YOU GET IT!!! This is exactly what I am talking about. > > Then these people who were supposedly making points of principle contact > me offlist and berate me about my ego which is funny because I am a > short, fat, bald guy. I don't have an ego. One of my goals is to > someday obtain an ego. > > If their points of principle were so justified why not post it where > everyone can see it. > > -- > Glenn Thompson > Programmer/Analyst > American Trouser, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ======================================================================= > To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/ -- Glenn Thompson Programmer/Analyst American Trouser, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================= To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/