Paul, unless you never, ever, never buy something at walmart or target, or
(fill in the blank of most retailers), then you are part of the problem.  
cjg 


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
770-422-2995
www.ediconsulting.com
 
600 Kennesaw Avenue
Suite 400 
Marietta, GA  30060

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
paulfchang1
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <OFF-TOPIC> OSTRPT message - Cheesey

I love how people hide behind the "it's a global community" thing.  As if it
was a nirvana the world economies have reached.

Let's be specific about what a global community is in terms of cheese:  
1)  The "Big Cheeses" (those corporations with the cheese in the first
place) want to save their cheese by lowering cheese expenditures or in terms
of the story line here - wanting to place less cheese in the cheese stations
2)  There are more foreign mice who are willing to accept lesser amounts of
cheese for their efforts than their domestic cousins
3)  The foreign mice, by charging less then their domestic cousins, provide
a way for the Big Cheeses to save money, and attract the Big Cheeses'
business
4)  There are limits by mouse leaders to how many foreign mice that can
become domestic mice
5)  There are no limits to how many foreign mice the Big Cheeses can sponsor
while working in domestic mazes
6)  The Big Cheese spends less to produce their product or service and can
charge less to provide it thus attracting more mice to buy their service
7)  The mice buying the product or service save their cheese because the
cost is lower
8)  More mice buying the product save more of their cheese overall than the
domestic mouse that was displaced lost, thus enjoying a greater standard of
living than even their foreign mice cousins as a whole
9)  The story is sad for the displaced domestic mouse
10)  Sadder, negative news sells better in mouse newspapers than positive
news which is usally not reported anyway, thus the mouse press gains more
cheese for printing negative news
11)  The mouse leaders get wind of the bad cheese news and force the Big
Cheeses to spread cheese around and spread it thinner
12)  The end result the Hems and Haws get what the Sniffs and Scurrys worked
for
13)  One often forgets, the foreign mice here contribute to the domestic
economy by living, eating, breathing and taking mortgages here in the US 


Move on to new cheese at:
Contract:
computerjobs.com
monster.com
dice.com
Permanent:
careerbuilder.com

-Paul Chang-

--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> We must remember that this is a global list for a global community.
 Many of
> us have "lost" jobs to outsource services, some in other countries.
 There
> is no more sense in decrying this situation than there was 100 years 
> ago when blacksmiths began to be unemployable because of Henry Ford.  
> Smart blacksmiths went to work for Ford.  Smarter ones purchased stock.
> 
>  
> 
> Progress happens.
> 
>  
> 
> The book, "Who Moved My Cheese" was a best seller, partly because it 
> is thin, but mostly because it addresses this very issue.
> 
>  
> 
> It is time we, the IT community in the western world, start
evaluating our
> futures.  Is the job you're doing the only thing you can do?  Better
learn
> something new.  Are you counting on employment for 100% of your
income, now
> and in the future?  What was that your grandmother said about eggs and 
> baskets?
> 
>  
> 
> After work, I teach people how to diversify their income sources. 
If you
> want to know more, contact me via my business email:
acd<at>ix.netcom.com.  
> 
>  
> 
> Art Douglas
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOHN KNIGHT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message
> 
>  
> 
> No, the proper response for the off shore request is "What is the
rate you
> are paying".
> 
>  
> 
> For one who has been unemployed for the last 6 months now after 16
years in
> the EDI community I am tired of all of the support that we give to the 
> request for information that is from the off-shore area.
> 
>  
> 
> Sure, I might know the answer but why offer if for free when I am
now done
> with my severance package, my unemployement and now am living on my
savings.
> My job was outsourced and the automotive sector for supply parts OEM 
> is going to China.  Jobs are hard to come by and any help would be a
plus.  So
> for me I say what is your rate and I can help you with your problem.
 Better
> start to see what is going around or you will be in the same boat as 
> me without a job and the only prospect is to move from my family and
friends.
> Off shore was great for my company but it sure was not great for me
and my
> family.
> 
>  
> 
> I can tell you that after doing automotive EDI for 16 years for the 
> off shore companies they were not there to offer me a job when I needed
it.
> 
>  
> 
> Not really bitter but just trying to deal with reality and what I
will be
> doing with the rest of my life since it has been six months with
nothing.
> 
>  
> 
> John
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; [email protected] 
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:34 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message
> 
>  
> 
> The tandard response to a equest like this: I uggest you ontact your
lient's
> trading artner and find out what hey are xpecting, or will be sending.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sovik Nandi
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:59 AM
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> Subject: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message
> 
> Hello All,
>   Currently we are doing OSTRPT message mapping for our client.
>   This is the first time our lient is rying o send such a message.
>   They are using EDIFACT.
>   Can anyone help us with some old sample messages so that we can get 
> an idea about the data that is to be sent.
>    
>   Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>    
>   Sovik
>    
>   Business Consultants Group,
>   Calcutta,
>   India
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