Klaus, I'm in general agreement with your historical recap below - I believe
that the first transaction was most likely a bill of lading between the
various transportation modes.
 
And of course, we all know that it was Ed Guilbert that was actually the
father of EDI as we know it today as a result of his role in the Berlin
Airlift and further work in the U.S. DOT.
 
My copy of the EDI Forum Founding Issue has several articles written by Joe
Carley, Ralph Notto, Buddy Bass, among others sheds light on this question
In Buddy Bass' (Earl J. Bass) article about John Nelsen he indicates that it
was Conrail and the Missouri Pacific railroads that provided the first ever
demonstration of the TDCC EDI standards when they exchanged the Waybill Data
Exchange transaction between them in 1978.
 
Dr. Margaret Emmelhainz in her book states that TDCC published its first
standards in 1975.
 
Rachel
 
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Subject: Re: [EDI-L] First ever published EDI standard?




On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Art Douglas wrote:

> The question of the first EDI standard could be as interesting as 
> the Choice/Pro Life argument about when does life begin. My first 
> programming assignment was to parse a delimited, formatted, 
> electronically transmitted message into a database-loadable flat- 
> file. Looking back, it was a form of EDI, though the format and 
> standard was proprietary to MAC, the Military Airlift Command of 
> the US Air Force. (Try parsing a long, delimited message in COBOL 
> 68 as your first entry into computer programming. - Hint, there is 
> no string-handling function or anything similar in C68) That was 
> in 1975. I was 3 1/2 years old at the time.
> <disclaimer> The above message contains one lie. </disclaimer>

Art,

Thanks for the feedback. I assume the lie is in reference to your 
age :-)

I agree with you that one could argue about the first EDI message 
(standard) for some time, so let's all agree with recorded history 
that the first EDI exchange took place in 1948 during the Berlin 
Airlift, where the task of co-ordinating airfreighted consignments of 
food and consumables (which arrived with differing manifests, 
languages and numbers of copies) was addressed by devising a standard 
manifest. As far as I know the standard was never publicly published.

> So orgs have been sending EDI for some time, since the day of the 
> semiphore, I'll submit. I first heard about UCS (or was it TDCC) 
> in the late '80s, working for a grocery distribution company, but 
> at that time, I was not involved with the EDI development effort.

Here is what I understand to be the history of EDI. In the early 1960 
the rail and road transport industries started to engage in what we 
call today EDI exchanges. This let to the formation of the 
Transportation Data Coordinating Committee (TDCC) in 1968. In 1973, 
the TDCC decided to develop a set of standards for EDI between 
companies and to invent a so-called "living standard", .ie: a 
standard that included standards on how to change the standards! This 
resulted in the first inter-industry EDI standard in 1975 covering 
air, motor, ocean, rail and some banking applications. What evolved 
included generic formats for general business ANSI X12, first 
published in 1981; a WINS format for the warehouse industry; and a 
UCS format for the food and drug industry; and for TDCC. European 
development of TRADACOMS, ODETTE and JEDI started around 1984.

What is not mention in any of the history recaps is what actually was 
the first "published" EDI message/transaction set? For EDIFACT it was 
the Invoice. But what was it for the TDCC or who ever actually 
publicly published the first EDI standard? I am curious to find out 
what at that time was the most pressing business need for exchange 
what particular document. What was its structure compared to today's 
version?

Klaus


 


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