There is no certification authority for HTTP, FTP, bisync, 3780, async, XML, SMTP, POP3, etc., etc., etc.
The delicious monopoly that The Drummond Group enjoys is built on marketing genius, not technical need. Art Douglas Chief Consultant Blackwater Network 877-464-8915 -----Original Message----- From: Shan Harter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:37 AM To: 'Art Douglas' Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Reducing/eliminating our EDI VAN Must be nice to "create your own market" :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Douglas Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:15 AM To: 'w_cohen99'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Reducing/eliminating our EDI VAN William, Please understand that Drummond Certification _DOES NOT_ signify or even guarantee compliance with W3C standards for AS2. All it signifies is compliance with Drummond test criteria, and payment of large sums of money to obtain this certification, up front and on an on-going basis. Some would say that the Drummond Group/Wal*Mart link in our industry constitutes extortion. I wouldn't say that, though the thought has crossed my mind. My opinion is that Drummond Group has created a need where none existed before by manipulating opinion. That's why they receive large fees for their stamp of approval. Some software vendors have decided not to pay the fees for certification of what can be independently tested and proved. If free or other non-certified ASx software works, and the user can successfully trade documents and MDNs using the options specified by W3C, including those options not tested by Drummond Group, then the software is compliant. Why Wal*Mart elects to not recognize this obvious fact is beyond my meager understanding. My opinion is that Wal*Mart's mandate of Drummond Certification has significantly delayed widespread adoption of AS2 and has fostered misconceptions such as, "not certified means non-compliant." Art Douglas Chief Consultant Blackwater Network 877-464-8915 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of w_cohen99 Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> com Subject: [EDI-L] Re: Reducing/eliminating our EDI VAN Freeas2 will not help me, as it is not compliant, a tleast not via Drummond Group. Walter --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> com, Earl Wertheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Walter > > > My top 5 TPs state that I must buy a compliant (UCC / Drummond > > Group) EDIINT product in order to go AS2 with them and most of these > > products are rather pricey. For instance Inovis BizConnect is > > $4,500 for up to 25 TPs and $900/yr maintenance plus $1k remote > > install. Anyone making use of any other 'reasonably priced' EDIINT > > products? > > http://www.freeas2. <http://www.freeas2.com/order.aspx> com/order.aspx > 25 licenses (NOT TPs) for $999.00 > > the 1st is free ;-) > > > Some TPs may require 2 licenses. Keep that in mind. > > Earl Wertheimer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.spe- <http://www.spe-edi.com> edi.com > ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
