One solution I came up with worked when a customer was consistent with their
SKU errors:  I created a customer SKU cross-reference table.  Then we
tweaked the Order Import process so that when a SKU validation failed
against the Item Master, the process attempted a look-up in the SKU XREF
table:  First by ship-to, then by customer, then a general look-up.  The
original SKU was stored in an extra field in the sales order, which was
passed on to the ASN and the Invoice interface files.  Then we mapped those
extra fields to the outbound product code.  The problem we ran into was when
the customer placed a phone order.  Then we didn't have the "original" SKU
for the invoice.  Solution?  They outsourced EDI before we addressed that
one, so I have no idea.

Art Douglas
Lead Consultant
Blackwater Network
(877) 464-8915

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Holt, Jake
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Random venting?> Resending... you what?

I hear what you guys are saying, the only problem is I run into exactly
what Art said.  They just expect me to accept and adjust it but then it
delays everything down the line.  If I correct the issue, now I have
labeling problems (which I get to handle too), ASN problems, etc.  and
we all know where that leads (hint: $$$$).  Generally we can challenge
the fines but that costs money too.  I would be fine if they didn't
"resend" a PO since I can understand that's a no no for some people, but
certainly I would think implementing an EDI solution to the problem
would be valuable to both parties.

 

That PO hold is a pretty solid Idea, and it could tie right into my
current validation engine.  Amazing how you can miss the simple answers
in favor of the complex ones that make everyone mad =).

 

Now I feel better... until next week when someone else does it.

From: Dale Marthaller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:47 PM
To: 'Art Douglas'; 'Earl Wertheimer'; Holt, Jake;
'[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Random venting?> Resending... you what?

 

We have the mother of all hybrid systems. We receive EDI PO's with vague
and/or incorrect UPC's, determine and ship the correct ones billing the
customer back with their own UPC codes. We are lucky that our product's
packaging does not have bar codes on them.

 

Dale Marthaller

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Oppenheimer Group

expect the world from us

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Art Douglas
Sent: September/16/2008 10:26 AM
To: 'Earl Wertheimer'; 'Holt, Jake'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Random venting?> Resending... you what?

 

If the customer sends an incorrect SKU, part number, UPC, etc., and the
supplier "figures it out" and creates a sales order with the correct
part
number on it, ships it, and invoices it, then dollars to donuts the
customer's A/P department will delay payment because "the PO doesn't
match
the invoice."

One of the big advantages of EDI is that it forces trading partners to
synchronize their product catalogs and price lists. If they don't, then
things won't work as they should.

My initial response to Jake's dilemma would be to reject the order. But
on
further consideration, I think I would recommend placing the order on
hold
pending a PO Change, replacement order, etc. A verbal "okay" from the
buyer
is insufficient. The buyer _never_ informs his/her A/P department of the
change.

This rant also applies to pricing, quantity, changes etc. If it is not
in
writing or EDI, the approval for a change doesn't exist.

Art Douglas
Lead Consultant
Blackwater Network
(877) 464-8915

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Earl
Wertheimer
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: Holt, Jake; [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <Random venting?> Resending... you what?

Jake

> If a customer requires me to correct and resend any document that they
> can't process due to an error (which isn't a problem), shouldn't they
be
> able to do the same when they can't get a UPC right to save their
life?

They are the client. If it becomes too expensive to handle their
requirements, 
you can add the cost to their prices or ask them to go elsewhere. 

I would suggest a bit of gentle training. 

"Garbage In, Garbage Out" still applies. If they cannot submit the
correct
UPC 
to you, then you always have the option to reject the PO and send them a
notice 
that they are wrong, ship them the wrong goods, or correct it
yourself...

> Email is a good way to resolve errors on POs, right? anyone?

It depends on the error. If there are turnaround documents from the 850
(ie. 
Invoice or ASN), then the email will not correct the error on the PO.

Email is a good way to explain a problem and supply a backup, but
nothing
can 
beat a correct PO ;-)

Earl Wertheimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:earlw%40spe-edi.com> 
http://www.spe-edi.com

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