Growing up I had plenty of friends with interoperabilty issues. Have you heard the tag, "Does not play well with others?"
You can know if you're certifiable and not have to pay for that knowledge. However defining who / what is certifiable earns lots of money for many people in many industries, why should EDI be any different? :-) James Hatcher Trying to be a wit and I'm 1/2 way there... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Fw: News from Drummond Group Inc. with Added Commentary From: "Jesse Sightler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, September 26, 2008 8:23 am To: "Klaus-Dieter Naujok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] I agree... the principle that interoperability testing is useful (I won't say necessary) is true. But doing it in a way that provides preferential treatment to one testing company (Drummond) in this way is not necessary. Things would have been much better had the industry standardized on a suite of open source tests for as2 products and a reasonable fee to certify that a product has passed the suite. Alas, openness isn't common in this industry yet. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Klaus-Dieter Naujok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: > >> Get out your shovels and sand bags, 'cause here come a real tidal >> wave. > > Dave, > > Thanks for passing on the information. Reading between the lines such > as "For B2B applications [Open Source and COTS], full matrix testing > and certification programs are necessary to identify and resolve all > the interoperability problems" I am not surprised that DGI is > expanding its market by creating the need for more testing. I wonder > what took so long for DGI to lay the foundation to expand > certification to all B2B applications, not just communications? > > As someone who has been in software development for the last 25+ > years, and having been the first to go through EDIINT testing with > DGI, and before that with X.400 certification, I prefer "self testing" > using a free and open test suite that can be used by developers, > vendors and users alike. This type of testing has been common in many > areas, such as ebXML using a test suite provided by NIST, resulting in > top quality Open Source and/or COTS applications. > > One issue I have found with the way certification is done by DGI is > that if the participants don't agree on the interpretation of the > standard/specification, they agree to an ad-hoc "fix" in order to > certify their interoperability amongst their application. In other > words, DGI certification is not about being 100% in compliant with the > standard/specification in question, it certifies that that application > can interoperate with each other. Or to put it into EDI terms, > certification does not certify that a set of EDI translators are 100% > compliant with say UN/EDIFACT syntax, but do interoperate as long as > they agree to the fix that the UNOA character set is not restricted to > "Uppercase" characters only. The end result would be that a truly 100% > compliant EDI application that is not certified by DGI would reject an > interchange from a "certified" application. Do I have to say more? > > Maybe it is time for starters for us to work together on creating a > open source AS2 test suite. Anyone interested? > > Klaus > > ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
