I think you missed a bit of My point, Brian...

I never said it was a "flawed question" but that there was ...

"a bit of flawed logic" 

... in the question ... and then detailed the concepts of the big 
document vs. the little document, as you then also mentioned...

Craig
http://editalk.com

--- In [email protected], "blacroce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is not really a flawed question.  There are many companies 
that 
> have negotiated network pricing using a per doc cost instead of a 
kc 
> cost.  What really needs to be considered is the number of docs 
per 
> months, and while there are big docs and small docs you'll just 
need 
> to know the average doc size.
> 
> Patricia, you need to look at the last 3 months and total your 
> kilocharacters and the total number of docs and get your average.  
I 
> know people that pay a low two to three cents per doc, other 
paying 
> four to five cents per kc.  I actually had even worked out a 
fixed   
> monthly rate regardless of volume.  It's all about the volume.  
Come 
> back to this group with your 3 month average of docs and monthly 
kc 
> total and then this group can give more constructive feedback. 
> 
> Goodluck.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Craig Dunham" <ced@> wrote:
> >
> > Patrice and all,
> > 
> > There's a bit of flawed logic in this question and in many of 
the 
> > answers given so far...
> > 
> > And it's based upon the original question - the cost PER MESSAGE.
> > 
> > The problem in this logic is that all messages are of different 
> > sizes - some are much bigger and some are much smaller.
> > 
> > For example, let's say I send out an 850 PO for 1 line item, but 
> > it's for 15,000 units...  It's going to be a small and simple 
> > message that is being sent.
> > 
> > But then I get back the 856 ASN from the vendor - and they ship 
10 
> > units per carton.  So I'm going to get 1500 cases.  that ASN 
will 
> be 
> > huge when it comes to characters, but it's still just "a 
message".
> > 
> > And then the 810 Invoice will be another small message.
> > 
> > Can you truly put a value - the SAME value - on each of those 
> > messages?  Not so much, no.  
> > 
> > Think of it in the ways of the 'Net.  You've got an e-mail 
you're 
> > sending and you've got a program you're downloading.  Both 
> > are "single items" - but at a few hundred kilobytes, that e-mail 
is 
> > small and quick.  But at a few hundred thousand kilobytes, that 
> > program is HUGE.  The program download will use up a lot of your 
> > bandwidth or (if applicable) your daily limit of data being sent 
or 
> > received.  If you're still using dial-up, think of how long that 
> > download will take vs. the relatively short time for the e-mail.
> > 
> > Ask this question - of yourselves or of others - would you 
consider 
> > a flat fee per document to be a good value, given the widely 
varied 
> > sizes of documents?  Should you pay the same amount of insurance 
on 
> > a $200,000 Rolls Royce that you'd pay on a $15,000 Toyota Yaris 
(or 
> > other inexpensive car)...?  I doubt you would - because you know 
it 
> > costs a LOT more to replace that Rolls (or get parts for it!) 
than 
> > it would to replace parts (or the car!) on the Yaris.
> > 
> > And if you re-ask the question - but take it to the "decent 
> > price/cost per KC for EDI messages" - well, then, that's a topic 
> > that has been posted many times - and beaten just about to 
death! - 
> > on this forum (and any others revolving around the concepts of 
> > EDI)...  
> > 
> > Just My thoughts
> > 
> > Craig Dunham
> > EDI Coordinator
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "ediaas" <ediaas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > > 
> > > In your opinion/experience, what is a decent price/cost per 
EDI 
> > > message, including mapping and transmission?
> > > 
> > > What about $0.32/message?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks in advance and best regards,
> > > 
> > > Patrice
> > >
> >
>



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