Thank you all for the information and advice. I understand how pointless it is to send all the data and that all the data would most likely be ignored. I also understand these T&C would have to be agreed upon before our two companies even began to do business. I have attempted to point out that this is not necessary but received some legal talk about needing this on the invoice in return. I already have our local customer service rep tracking down all the customers to update them and track down their latest Invoice specification guides since some of the customer have not been touched in 10 years.
I like the website link idea - thank you Samantha. I had not thought of that. I will pursue a simple message along with the web link and pass that idea by legal/finance. I am pretty sure I can sell it. Thank you all for your responses. Leah - feel free to update us on Friday. Thanks again Dan Gordon project manager order-to-cash / edi KAO BRANDS COMPANY 2535 spring grove avenue, cincinnati, ohio 45214 p. 513.455.7590 f. 513-263-7790 c. 513-478-4209 [email protected] --- In [email protected], Leah Halpin <leahhal...@...> wrote: > > I've not seen this in an invoice, however, one OEM who shall remain nameless > (and almost was) sends all terms and conditions in NTE segments in 850/860. > Of > course, we just ignore it, since all of these same terms and conditions have > been agreed to in writing, signed sealed and delivered, often years ago. > Also, > these "terms and conditions" haven't changed in the 15 years I've been doing > this. Ah, well, I call it the OWM syndrome. I'll tell you what OWM means on > Friday, if you really have to know. > > Leah > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Allan Bennett <allanbenn...@...> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:25:24 PM > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Terms and Conditions - Tradacoms > > > Art, > > I agree completely! It is wasteful (if you are paying by the kilocharacter) > and > accomplishes absolutely nothing except to provide "noise" in the > communication.. > > At the most, all you really need is a simple line in an N9/MTX segment that > references the Trading Partner Agreement or the Ts & Cs "incorporated herein > by > reference". > > Allan Bennett > EDI Coordinator > The Gorilla Glue Company > P: (513) 527-3756 > F: (513) 527-5013 > E: allanbenn...@... > > [cid:image001.jpg@...] > > THE GORILLA GLUE COMPANY > This e-mail is intended for the sole use of the individual(s) to whom it is > addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. You are hereby notified that any > dissemination, duplication, or distribution of this transmission by someone > other than the intended addressee or its designated agent is strictly > prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify me > immediately > by replying to this e-mail. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art > Douglas > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:22 PM > To: 'kaoedi' > Cc: [email protected]; 'Samantha Scott' > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Terms and Conditions - Tradacoms > > This is where a signed TPA (Trading Partner Agreement) could be useful. If > it included agreement to the T & C, then printing it on the Invoice would be > superfluous. > > I am thinking somebody in your UK Legal or A/R doesn't understand the nature > of an EDI Trading Partnership. Communicate - Educate them. It might help. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected]<mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Samantha Scott > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:24 PM > To: kaoedi > Cc: [email protected]<mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Terms and Conditions - Tradacoms > > How about hardcoding a link to terms and conditions stored on the web? > > This stuff on EDI docs is silly, we all know that, but lawyers win these > arguments. The military who is notorious for reams of text in their docs > has not started sending links to the applicable bits online and it is quite > the refreshing change. > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM, kaoedi > <dan.gor...@...<mailto:dan.gordon%40kaobrands.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > Our UK office is requiring that their "Terms and Conditions" (this is 1 > > page of small print containing about 24 numbered paragraphs) be included > in > > the EDI invoices being sent to our trading partners. > > > > The standard being used for the majority of partners is Tradacoms. > > > > We are using SAP - to Gentran on the iSeries (AS/400) which is the > > translator. > > > > I am still investigating with our trading partners where each customer > > would like the data. > > > > No - I have not spoken with our legal department yet either. > > > > I am just throwing this out to see if anyone has experience doing this. > > > > My question to the group is: has anyone done anything like this before? I > > am thinking of several options: 1) Just including a one line reference > that > > states something along the lines of " Accepting this invoice agrees to all > > the Kao Brands Company Terms and Conditions of Sale" 2) Just having an > exit > > routine that will put all the T&C from a file and add it to segments, 3) > > Really don't want to hard code anything 4) still thinkning > > > > If anyone has any ideas or recommendations I would be interested to hear > > what they are and thank you for the help. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Dan Gordon > > project manager order-to-cash / edi > > > > KAO BRANDS COMPANY > > 2535 spring grove avenue, cincinnati, ohio 45214 > > p. 513.455.7590 f. 513-263-7790 c. 513-478-4209 > > dan.gor...@...<mailto:dan.gordon%40kaobrands.com> > ><dan.gordon%40kaobrands.com> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > ... > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> > IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! 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