Ah, I see.  Well, that, I cannot answer, sorry.  I do wish you luck though.  
I'm thinking your first EDI example should work for what you're trying to do, 
it's just a matter of getting Syspro to recognize what you mean (now, that is 
the tricky part).

Leah



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From: Rich Silva <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Reprise> EDI, the Incoming 846 and LOT numbers...


  
Hi Leah!

Yes, to this client, its important to know the Quantity On Hand per LOT (At 
least they currently think so… I’ve been asking them the same question)

Yes, the issue is with the ERP, its Syspro w/ Cadecus EDI installed… and I have 
a good relationship with the Syspro folks… and with a few others in this group 
who know Syspro.

The Business Process I am trying to support is Inventory Maintenance. In 
particular I’m trying to reconcile an “actual cycle count” at the Warehouse 
with the Stock Levels that are reported in Syspro. The idea is to receive an 
EDI 846 from the Warehouse and with that produce a Variance Report against the 
Stock Levels in Syspro…. Then negotiated action will take place to reconcile 
those variances.

I’m fairly certain that once I come up with a description of what I want that I 
can get Syspro/Cadecus to impement this as an enhancement. 

I want to make sure what I ask for is actually a reasonable thing…

Rich

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leah 
Halpin
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:20 PM
To: Rich Silva; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <Reprise> EDI, the Incoming 846 and LOT numbers...

Rich,
I have very limited experience with the 846 and none with "lot" numbers (except 
Honda Lot Numbers and small lot numbers, but, hey, that's a whole different 
story).  So, I have a question, is it important to know the quantity per lot 
number?  It seems like you want to know it, but you haven't explicitly said so. 
 I also have a comment and a suggestion.  Comment:  It seems like the issue is 
with the ERP rather than the EDI, so maybe if you mentioned what the ERP is or 
asked people in a group related to your ERP you might get a better answer.  My 
suggestion is to clearly state what business process you are trying to support 
or business problem you are trying to solve and someone on this list might be 
able to share an innovative solution that you have not thought of, which may or 
may not involve the 846.

In any case, I wish you luck.

Leah

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From: Rich Silva <[email protected] <mailto:richsilv%40pacbell.net> >
To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: [EDI-L] <Reprise> EDI, the Incoming 846 and LOT numbers...

Hi,

<Maybe this will make this a little more readable>

I wanted to maybe clear up a few points...
I know that this depends on the relevant Specs... Except that neither I, nor 
the Warehouse involved have a spec that covers or has an example of this 
issue... But they are willing to send what I need to receive to have the 
expected results...

I can go to the SW provider and ask for an Enhancement... But if I go that 
route, I want to make doubly sure I am not asking for a "square peg" to fit in 
a "round hole"... And I want to make sure I am asking for something that 
actually aligns with Best Practices (whatever that means with respect to EDI)

= = = = Original message, reformatted, subtly changed, follows = = = = 

Have any of you experience with the Incoming (or even Outgoing) 846 and Stock 
Codes with more than one LOT number?

If you have Stock distributed across a number of LOTs at your warehouse, how 
would that be documented in an EDI 846?

I would think that you should be able to document the QTY on hand (or 
available) of each LOT for each Stock Code?

As an experiment I manipulated the Stock/LOT levels for a couple of Stock Codes 
within the Application and then manually generated an 846 "from my Warehouse" 
for those two Stock Codes matching the levels I had set. The Stock and LOT 
distribution as in the below table… 

Lot Stock code WH received on hand Expiry date Creation date
0111 43.539V 90 8,000 8,000 06/22/11 01/22/11
0211 43.539V 90 2,000 2,000 06/22/11 02/22/11
0311 43.539V 90 1,000 1,000 06/22/11 03/22/11
0611 43.505 90 8,000 8,000 06/22/12 06/22/11
0711 43.505 90 2,000 2,000 07/22/12 06/22/11
0811 43.505 90 1,000 1,000 08/22/12 06/22/11

The 846 I generated contained (amongst the usual fluff) the following detail 
lines:
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0611
QTY*33*8000*EA
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0711
QTY*33*2000*EA
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0811
QTY*33*1000*EA
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0111
QTY*33*8000*EA
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0211
QTY*33*2000*EA
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0311
QTY*33*1000*EA

My expectation was that importing this would generate no variances since each 
Stock/LOT number QTY matched the On Hand QTY?
Instead I received a variance for each line, declaring the Total Stock QTY. 
(And then I checked, no there is no option to recognize the Stock any other way)

That doesn’t seem right to me…

So, I generated, this time using the Same application I am Importing the 846 
through, an outgoing 846 for the same Warehouse, the lines in it look like:
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*JUL08
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0611
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0711
LIN**VN*43.505*UP*830324001410*LT*0811
QTY*33*11000*EA
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0111
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0211
LIN**VN*43.539V*LT*0311
QTY*33*11000*EA

(FWIW, the JUL08 LOT has no On Hand or Available stock)
Which at least suggests what LOTs exist, but not how much stock is available in 
each of them…

So maybe I am a bit confused…
Anyone have some comments on this? Am I expecting something that just isn’t 
going to arrive in an 846? Or is there a different way (or document) I can use 
to do the same thing?

Richard Silva
Silva Software Services – United States
Phone: (310) 387-8364
Email: [email protected] <mailto:RichSilv%40Pacbell.net> 
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