Well for me the interview process this time around is not the problem, though I 
wish it was!  I just keep telling myself if it's too good to be true it 
probably is.  So when you find that BS meter, let us know.  I'm sure there are 
more than a few on here who could use one!

--- In [email protected], Leah Halpin <leahhalpin@...> wrote:
>
> I wish I could offer no fail advice on that one, but my lifetime average is 
> 50/50.   Now what I've learned from that is to ask someone what they like 
> about the work they do and also to ask more open ended questions, like asking 
> them to describe a problem they came up against and how it was solved.  I 
> never ask the "what don't you like" because that only gets dumb answers and 
> also "tell me your weaknesses".  LOL, like the whole world hasn't figured 
> that one out.  I did hear an interview question that intrigued me, although 
> I don't really know what to do with the answers and that was "off the top of 
> your head, what are five words that describe you?".  
> 
> 
> What I need is a BS meter, my worst mistake was hiring a very personable and 
> well spoken person with a stellar resume who turned out to be the jerk who 
> never actually did any work and when he did, messed it up so badly it took 
> three people to figure out how to undo it.  
> 
> 
> Leah
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Samantha Scott <mossmuncher@...>
> To: Leah Halpin <leahhalpin@...> 
> Cc: tbergmann1 <tbergmann1@...>; "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: GIS and SI
>  
> 
> Amen
> 
> I would be interested in any nuggets of wisdom you have to share on 
> interviewing candidates and figuring out whether they have those important 
> traits.  I've been contemplating test for critical thinking skills and 
> wondering if there is any test out there for common sense!  Seems crazy I 
> know but I'd take one good person with common sense and good basic code 
> housekeeping skills who loves a challenge over four with perfect resumes 
> lacking those skills.  
> 
> 
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Leah Halpin wrote:
> 
>   
> >Allow me to suggest that finding someone who knows your exact system/toolkit 
> >is not necessarily going to mean a small learning curve.  I have worked 
> >with people who "knew" the tool being used from previous positions and had 
> >worked with it for many years.  However, they couldn't adapt to a new 
> >business process nor to a different industry.  
> >
> >Also, I've known people who supposedly knew the tool and the industry, but 
> >just didn't bother to do any work, although they sold themselves well in the 
> >interview.  Others who knew the tool, but had no idea how to gather 
> >requirements or even interpret guidelines, they had to be told EXACTLY what 
> >to do, that made more work for the rest of us, not less.
> >
> >Bottom line, I now look for people whose resumes show flexibility, variety 
> >and evidence of learning ability.  I learned this the hard way, maybe you 
> >can avoid that mistake.
> >
> >Second piece of advice, ask the question you really want answered instead of 
> >posing a hypothetical, you'll get better answers.
> >
> >Good Luck,
> >Leah
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: tbergmann1 <tbergmann1@...>
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:09 PM
> >Subject: [EDI-L] Re: GIS and SI
> >
> >
> >  
> >I apologize for the tardiness, but thank you all for your comments.  I am 
> >essentially trying to figure out if I hire someone who has GIS experience, 
> >the shift to SI will be minimal.  Unfortunately we can't afford a big 
> >learning curve so I have to minimize my vulnerability.  But it does sound 
> >like it won't be too bad.
> >
> >--- In [email protected], Samantha Scott <mossmuncher@> wrote:
> >>
> >> When we went from GIS to SI I hardly noticed the difference, 
> >> operationally.  All my old stuff worked.  Adapters get improved and 
> >> deprecated as one would expect.  Its always good to know which ones you 
> >> are using and read the update notes carefully.  I have been updating all 
> >> the xpath to the more specific reference as preferred by SI:  
> >> string(/ProcessData/ParticularNode) rather than //ParticularNode/text() 
> >> but the old way continues to work in the meantime. 
> >> 
> >> My biggest piece of advice is never upgrade...always do a fresh install on 
> >> a new server instance, migrate all your prod to it (test extensively) and 
> >> then make it prod when you take down  the old instance and copy prod for 
> >> your new test environment.  With the latest versions of SI as administered 
> >> by IBM that is your only option now anyway.  Good choice...upgrades were 
> >> twice the work and 3 times the hassle going forward.
> >> 
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:29 PM, tbergmann1 wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hello folks. I would like to pick your brains regarding Sterling's GIS 
> >> > and Sterling Integrator. Essentially what I would like to know is if 
> >> > someone is very knowledgeable about GIS but has never used SI, how big 
> >> > of a learning curve would you think there would be? Based on what I know 
> >> > about both (which, admittedly is little), I would suspect it's not too 
> >> > big a learning curve, but I'd rather hear from someone who has used 
> >> > both. 
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks for all your help and happy Friday!
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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