I remember that.  I learned many a fancy mapping trick trying to make a Ford 
862 make sense to our scheduling system.   

On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:19 PM, ken kinlock wrote:

> YUP! Things were crazy in those early years: I remember doing EDI with FORD 
> where every control number 
> for every envelope, every document, every day was "1".
> 
> ...Ken
> 
>  
> Ken Kinlock
> Electronic Commerce, Logistics, Supply Chain, SEO and EDI
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> my g*d - i used telink.  for 1990 it was actually very versatile.  we had the 
> same problem that everyone else had -
> how to move the data from a pc to anywhere else.  we got pretty create to do 
> the sneaker netting that was 
> required.  
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> From: Pete Austin [email protected]>
> To: Michael Mattias/LS [email protected]> 
> Cc: EDI-L [email protected]> 
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Your EDI Pet Peeves (a survey)
> 
> You are right.  I worked for the first company that created an
> off-the-shelf translator  (Telink, Inc).  The owners were some of the
> founding members of the X12 committee.  And Dale Sortland was very very
> highbrow.  He'd come in, holes in the elbows of his sweater.  You'd ask him
> a question and he's stand in the doorway, leaning, stroking his beard,
> totally lost in thought.  If you tried, after a few minutes, to interrupt
> his train of thought, or step away, he'd just raise a finger.
> 
> He was a helluva guy, and brilliant.  If you think it through, the actual
> structure of standard has changed very very very little over the years.
> The ISA has never changed.  Nor has the IEA, GE, ST, or SE (not that there
> is a lot there to change).  Heck, the only change to the GS was to increase
> the date.  They planned for the concept of sub-element separators, even
> though they were not implemented for many versions.  All of this in a world
> of 1200 baud async modems with zero error correction.  All of the focus was
> on using no bandwidth, and no disk space.  Back then, a 10 meg drive ran
> nearly a grand.  Small, flexible, capable.  Pretty amazing really that it
> got us this far.
> 
> Frankly, the * was used because in that day and age, many systems were not
> able to readily read or write non-standard characters.  The * was one that
> had very little place in a world where every character counted.  Does
> anyone remember Packed data?  Now *that* was overkill.
> 
> Pete
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Michael Mattias/LS <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > > That's what you get when high-brow, "ivy tower" types put something in
> > writing and leave it to the minions to deal with!  :)
> >
> > Surely you are not suggesting people with exactly zero Real World
> > experience are allowed to issue specifications - without adult
> > supervision - are you?
> >
> > I'm shocked, shocked!
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