On 10/05/16 22:44, Tim Lewis wrote:
> Jaben --
> 
> In which cases would you have the Shell protocol present and not have the 
> Unicode Collation protocol?

That's exactly the question!

According to the spec, at least if the system cannot boot from a disk
device, then the collation protocol need not be present.

> By my count, the Shell itself cannot function without it (see 
> ProcessCommandLine()). 

In which case though I don't understand why Daniil experiences this
change (= commit 583448b441650) as a regression on Juno. If the shell
couldn't function without the collation protocol even before commit
583448b441650, then the shell must never have run on Juno -- because it
appears to lack collation -- and then this change cannot be a regression.

Thanks
Laszlo


> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-boun...@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of 
> Carsey, Jaben
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:35 PM
> To: Shah, Tapan <tapands...@hpe.com>; Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; 
> Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; Daniil Egranov <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 
> <edk2-de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 source on 
> the Reference Platform
> 
> That should work.  We also need to initialize the variable to NULL in the 
> constructor.
> 
> Do we need to be case insensitive for this?  Can we use memcmp instead of the 
> prototol?
> 
> -Jaben
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shah, Tapan [mailto:tapands...@hpe.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:25 PM
>> To: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; 
>> Daniil Egranov <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 <edk2- 
>> de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>
>> Subject: RE: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 
>> source on the Reference Platform
>> Importance: High
>>
>> How about moving protocol locate from constructor to the actual 
>> function level and returning an error if it fails to locate (See attached 
>> patch file).
>>
>> Tapan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Laszlo Ersek [mailto:ler...@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:18 PM
>> To: Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; Daniil Egranov 
>> <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 <edk2- 
>> de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>; Shah, Tapan 
>> <tapands...@hpe.com>
>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 
>> source on the Reference Platform
>>
>> On 10/05/16 21:48, Andrew Fish wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Daniil Egranov 
>>>> <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the same ASSERT issue on Juno platform even the 
>>>> EnglishDxe.inf is
>> included to the platform build. If UefiShellLib has such dependency on 
>> the protocol then according to EDKII Module Writer's Guide you need to 
>> specify the dependency on protocol in the module .inf to ensure the 
>> drivers proper load sequence.
>>>>
>>>> 8.6 Dependency Expressions
>>>> A dependency expression specifies the protocols that the DXE driver 
>>>> requires to execute. In EDK II, it is specified in the [Depex] 
>>>> section of INF
>> file.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Dependency Expression is for DXE Drivers that are dispatched by 
>>> the
>> DXE Core. A UEFI Driver from an option ROM or an Application does not 
>> get dispatched by the dispatch and the Depex will not help. The Depex 
>> ends up being a section in the FV and it has nothing to do with the 
>> PE/COFF image of the an application or option ROM.
>>>
>>> IMHO the shell should try as hard as possible to function and should 
>>> not
>> ASSERT if some newer Protocol is missing.
>>
>> (Background: commit 583448b441650.)
>>
>> In this specific case, the protocol dependency seems possible to eliminate:
>>
>> - Library/UefiShellDebug1CommandsLib/UefiShellDebug1CommandsLib.c
>> includes the CharToUpper() function, which is minimal -- could even be 
>> copied or moved over -- and can translate the ASCII subset of UCS-2,
>>
>> - once the ASCII characters of the input string have been translated 
>> to upper case, the result could be searched for / compared against L"NULL"
>> using BaseLib.h APIs.
>>
>> (Given that L"NULL" only contains characters from the ASCII subset, it 
>> suffices to upper-case ASCII chars in the input string. No non-ASCII 
>> character in the BMP can translate to ASCII N/U/L via upcasing, even 
>> with the real collation protocol (I trust), and no other ASCII 
>> characters than n/u/l will translate to N/U/L. This means that we 
>> won't miss an instance of NULL because we didn't upcate it (because it 
>> was non-ascii), and it also means we won't mistakenly match something 
>> non-NULL as NULL.)
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Laszlo
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