Mike,

With randomization pre, it is not necessary to take a pre-intervention
measurement. Test the difference in confidence following the training.  If
it is significant, there is a difference.  Decide what direction it is in
and attribute the difference to the training. You can make this attribution
because of random assignment even without pre-measure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Wogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 2:16 PM
To: Luv 2 muah 143
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Subject: Re: could someone help me with this intro to stat. problem


On 8 Dec 1999, Luv 2 muah 143 wrote:

> 5 of 10 volunteers are randomly selected to receive self-defense training.
The
> other 5 receive no training.  At the end of the training period, all
subjects
> complete a self-confidence questionnaire.  
> 
> a.)  Is there a difference in self-confidence between the 2 groups
(p<.01)?
> 
> 
> b.)  What are the effects of self-defense traing on self-confidence (I'm
> assuming a two-tailed test?).  Explain analysis
> 
> Please help, I can't figure it out...my mind has gone blank!!!!

Without a pre-test measure of self-confidence, taken prior to the
training, even if there is a significant difference post-training, it's
not possible to tell whether the difference is the result of the training 
or was there to begin with.  

If there is a pre-post measurement of self-confidence, then you need a
mixed model Anova, with Training vs. No Training as the between groups
factor and Pre-Post as the within groups factor.

Mike
 

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