Another note on this: Much of the original Mandel work seems to have been
done using classical linear regression, although the later stuff
incorporated errors-in-variables regressions. There is a recent update on
the use of this technique (with further references) in:
Tan, C.Y.; Iglewicz, B. (1999) Measurement-Methods Comparisons and Linear
Statistical Relationship. Technometrics. 41(3):192-201.
Regards,
Eric Scharin
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A far better, and more accepted, technique of method comparison is the use
of sensitivity measures, as developed by John Mandel of the National Bureau
of Standards (now NIST). There's no point in my going into any detail on
it, as a full description is available in:
Mandel, John. (1964) The Statistical Analysis of Experimental Data. New
York: Dover.
The book is available for <$12.00 from Amazon. Another more recent, but
out-of-print, reference is:
Mandel, John. (1991) Evaluation and Control of Measurements. New York:
Marcel Dekker.
Both have excellent treatments of this specific topic, as well as a wealth
of other stuff you will probably find invaluable. As far as I'm concerned,
these two books are all you need to understand the application of
statistical methods to measurement systems.
Regards,
Eric Scharin
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Subject: Correlation
I have data that measures light intensity with a number of different
techniques. One of the measurements (a direct measurement and "true"
measurement of light intensity) involves lots of time, labor, and expense.
The other techniques are more practical in the sense of time and labor, but
are indirect measurements (based on canopy structure (density, location of
holes in the canopy, etc). My goal is to determine if the indirect
measurements are valid estimates of the direct measurements. However, I
would
also like to predict light intensity based on the indirect methods.
I can see two methods of analysis for this situation: correlation and
regression. It seems that correlation would be the best option to validate
the measurements to each other. If the measurements are correlated then the
use of regression analysis would yield a prediction equation.
For the correlation analysis, I can use Pearson or Spearman analysis. To
use
Pearson, the variables should be normally distributed. However, I have read
that the distribution for correlation should be bivariate normally
distributed. I understand how to test for normality with a univariate normal
distribution but have no idea how to test for bivariate normal distribution.
I
am using the SAS program to do my analysis. Does anyone know how to test
for
bivariate normal distribution?
If the variables are bivariate normally distributed then I use Pearson, but
if
they are not normally distributed I use Spearman. Is this correct?
The regression analysis is also somewhat confusing. Regression analysis is
based on the fact that the Y (dependent variable) is random and the X
(independent variable) is fixed with no error. For my case, both X and Y
are
random and have some measurement error. Is it correct to use simple linear
regression for this analysis or is there another type of analysis to obtain
predictions?
I apologize for such a long post, but I have been struggling with this
analysis for sometime and the more information I obtain from Statistics
books,
the more confused I get.
Thanks in advance, Mike
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