At 07:34 AM 6/18/00 -0400, SM wrote:
>Two issues that may not be clear on the syllabus:
>
>1) I prohibit students from using a computer until they have solved the
>equation by hand first.  I have discovered that students do much better
>on exams when they have done the math.  For example, I can ask non math
>questions on an exam, and students do better.  They seem to have a
>deeper understanding.  Have you experienced this?

do you do this with every procedure you teach? stan dev? correlation
coefficient? regr equation? t test? where do you draw the line? and ... if
you adhere to this ... is it with unrealistic simple data or real data?
personally ... while i do think it is beneficial to do some things by hand
at least once ... i think more time on better introducing a good stat
package ... and showing students how to use it better ... would be more useful
>
>2) Students seem to understand basis statistical concepts when I repeat
>the explanation 3 to 5 times in different ways. I use links on my
>syllabus, lecture, films (AGAINST ALL ODDS), the text, and supplemental
>readings.

the more the merrier ..

>
>My syllabus can be found at
>http://www.uncp.edu/home/marson/360_summer.html .  I would appreciate
>your guidance, but try not to hurt my feelings!

i find it  a bit strange in your syllabus the listing earlier in the topics
... autocorrelation ... and time series ... which are really regression
approaches ... BEFORE you even discuss correlation and regression ... 

also ... you say:

"Another point about exams:  There are two sections of this course 8 AM and
12:30 PM.  Students may elect to take their quizzes and exam
during the time scheduled for the other section in which they are not
enrolled.  Students may do this by notifying the professor no later than
the Wednesday prior to the exam."

and on missing or being late for a class

"Attendance Policy: Tardiness and absences will not be tolerated. An
excused absence means the student is permitted to make up the work; an
unexcused absence means that a student may not make up the work. Tardiness
is penalized as half an absence. All absences [excused and
unexcused] are penalized. In addition, if a student is ill, he/she must
report before the class. Failure to do so, will result in a zero credit.
Missing
6 hours of class constitutes an F. Don't miss class, don't be late."

seems like in college ... students should be in charge of their own time
... so, if a kid has to go to the docs .. you penalize them? a lesson they
have to learn is to manage their own time ... and, if they miss the class
... then, they are responsible for that ... 
why try to be a policeperson for their time? 

and .. continuing ..

"Tutoring: During the academic year 2000-2001, the social work computer lab
assistant is Melanie D. Enkoff-Sage.  She can help with Power
Point.  Her email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   If you need help with
power point, email her.  Student Support Services offers tutoring, but
they do not have a web page.  Their phone number is 910/521-6276."

how is power point related to stat? 

finally, i see nothing on your syllabus about students learning some stat
package ... rather, you mention a calculator ... this is a big mistake ... 
all serious stat work is done with packages and while it might be nice to
have them tinker with some problem on a calculator ... the failure to
introduce them to some professional way to actually do analysis ... 

will they have any other stat course? if not ... this is their only
opportunity to use software ... so, you should at least introduce some
package ... and have them become a little familiar with it ... which one
you use i don't care but, use something ... 
 

H 

does this not compromise security? what is to stop a person in the earlier
section ... from signing up for the later test ... but, get info from one
taking it earlier? this suggests that the same exam is being used ... is
that true?
>
>Cordially,
>
>Steve
>
>Stephen M. Marson, Ph.D., ACSW
>Professor/Director, Social Work Program
>UNC-P
>
>
>
>
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