Dear all, sorry for this preliminary question. I tried to explore through the texts and web search. But could not understand. So seek your help. In the identification of step of transfer function model (ARIMA,box jenkins), it is said that the shape of cross-correlation diagram give some idea about s,r,b (in the notation of box,jenkins book). I could understand 'b', but find kind of difficulty to understand how to guess s,r. Your help in this regard will be highly appreciated. Regards MG p.s. I understand there are some softwares which does the estimation process automatically (including identification and diagnosis). My concern here is to understand the process. ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================