In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rolf Dalin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In a discussion about the desired direction of development of intro >level statistics courses, a group where I am a member came to a >preliminary agreement that It is important to develop applied >statistics. I started to think about that concept in terms of main goals >of a course. The two main goals I suggest are
>1. abilities to use statistics in scientific work >2. ability to study statistics further I would differ on both. In fact, there should not be ONE "introductory level" statistics course, but the introduction should be at the highest level of mathematical understanding which will be attained. What the non-expert need most of all is to understand probability, probability modeling, and the evaluation of consequences, and to be able to FORMULATE investigations in this manner. The usual study by the one applying statistics of methods is greatly to be deplored; it is often necessary to devise new methods for a particular problem, and the one who does not understand theory is very likely to mess this up. Understanding need not require the full mathematics to derive results. It is totally irrelevant if the student knows how to compute a mean or a standard deviation. From some of the postings here, it seems clear that not all know what they mean and why they should be used, if at all. For anything, understand the theory, and then it can be correctly applied, often with assistance. Learn methods of application with no understanding, and they will be misapplied, and it also gets harder to achieve the understanding. -- This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558 ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================