this is the typical margin of error formula for building a confidence interval were the sample mean is desired to be within a certain distance of the population mean
n = sample size z = z score from nd that will produce desired confidence level (usually 1.96 for 95% CI) e = margin of error so, typical CI for mu would be: samp mean +/- z times standard error of mean e or the margin of error here is z * stan error of the mean (let me symbolize se) e = z * se for 95% CI .. e = 1.96 * se e = 1.96 * (sigma / sqrt n) now, what n might it take to produce some e? we can rearrange the formula ... sqrt n = (1.96 * sigma) / e but, we don't want sqrt n ... we WANT n! n = ((1.96 * sigma)/ e) ^2 so, what if we wanted to be within 3 points of mu with our sample mean the population standard deviation or sigma were 15? n = ((1.96 * 5) / 3)^2 = about 11 ... only would take a SRS of about 11 to be within 3 points of the true mu value in your 95% confidence interval unless i made a mistake someplace At 09:54 AM 9/28/01 -0400, Randy Poe wrote: >John Jackson wrote: > > > the forumla I was using was n = (Z?/e)^2 and attempting to express .05 > as a > > fraction of a std dev. > >I think you posted that before, and it's still getting >garbled. We see a Z followed by a question mark, and >have no idea what was actually intended. > > - Randy > > >================================================================= >Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about >the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at > http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ >================================================================= _________________________________________________________ dennis roberts, educational psychology, penn state university 208 cedar, AC 8148632401, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================