Nice example. Perhaps I should have said "partial (and not necessarily linear) correlation." ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Who said "Correlation does not imply causation".
> Hi > > On 3 Dec 2001, Karl L. Wuensch wrote: > > I think that phrase has created much misunderstanding. I try > > to convince my students that correlation is necessary but not > > sufficient for establishing a causal relationship. > > And I teach that NEITHER presence NOR absence of _simple_ > correlation can be used to infer much about causality. The > reasoning is the same in both cases. In the case of presence of > a correlation between X and Y, another variable might be > confounded with X and responsible for the observed r. In the > case of the absence of a correlation between X and Y, another > variable might be confounded with X and masking its influence, > producing the observed r. > > An example of the latter that I am fond of is the relatively low > r between amount of time spent studying and grades. The effect > of study time is masked by its negative correlation with ability > (i.e., IQ), which tends to be positively correlated with grades. > In essence, brighter people spend less time studying (perhaps > because they can obtain good grades without more study time). > Multiple regression with both study time and ability reveals the > robust effects of study time (and enhances the effect of ability > as well). > > So, depending on precisely what Karl means by "correlation is > necessary," I'd have to disagree strongly. > > Best wishes > Jim > ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================