Elias wrote: Some have already been answered.
> c) how formulas are changing? mean square between... (Ms) for mixed or > not designs? Random factors have extra variability associated with them compared to fixed factors. This variability reflects the fact that you are sampling a subset of items from from a population. The MSE term for random factors has an extra component reflecting this variability. > e) What is all about Clark and his experiment about verbs and noun? Clark argued that some experiments sample both subjects (people) and items (materials) from a population of possible people or items. In this case both people and items are random factors. The obvious example is sample words (say, nouns) from a language. If you use 30 words on a memory test and 30 people, Clark argued that to generalize your results to other people or other words wou need to treat both effects as random. > f) what is the relation of quasi F with fixed and random factor? Quasi F is the correct F ratio to use for two random effects. This is/was hard to calculate so Clark proposed a simple solution - calculate a minimum bound for quasi F - min F' using the F ratios obtained from two analyses - one treating subjects as random (the standard ANOVA) and one treating items as random and subjects fixed. minF' can only be significant if both these F ratios are significant But can fail to reach significance if both f ratios are significant). I minF' tends to be conservative (but only slightly in most cases, I think). > j) what happen about interaction eff? i read that if we have a random > factor we can have interaction without main effects. is right that? Do you mean the interaction is significant and the main effects are not? This is always possible. > k) And generally i read everywhere random versus fixed factor issue > but nowhere refer what is that (disadv, adv.. implications...), > neither i found something understadable in internet or in our > bibliothic. Look for the commentary to Clark's orginial article, e.g.: Clark, H. H. (1973). The language-as-fixed-effect fallacy: a critique of language statistics in psychological research. Journal of Verbal Learning and Verbal Behaviour, 12, 335-359. Wike, E. L., & Church, J. D. (1976). Comments on Clark's "The language-as-fixed-effect fallacy". Journal of Verbal Learning and Verbal Behaviour, 15, 249-255. Also recent articles such as: Raaijmakers, J. G. W., Schrijnemakers, J. M. C., & Gremmen, F. (1999). How to deal with "The language-as fixed-effect fallacy": Common misconceptions and solutions. Journal of Memory and Language, 41, 416-426. Thom ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================