Paul, You are wrong. I have consistently and repeatedly stated the assumptions of CR. Over and over people have attempted to invalidate it by violating those assumptions. Even when their violations are pointed out, they go on to interpret their findings as though they were valid tests, both on this newlist and on others. Such interprations are fraudulent. Why do you ignore these facts? I would think that a person who is involved with children would be concerned about the validity of the methods used to treat them. It is your responsibility to conduct ethical research and to fight against fraud. You have made no efforts to correct the abuses I have endured on this newslist and you show no interest in the evidence supporting the fraud by Marcoulides and Erlbaum. Whats the matter. Are you trying to publish in Erlbaum empire?
I should explain why I use the term Oedipal strivings. The Oedipus complex is described by Freud as the young boy's over extension of himself. He wants to perform as an adult and fancies his mother as his equal. In this case, sceince is the mother and I am the bad father figure... demonized as a villian. But Oedipus has not incorporated the values that focus behavior along ethical channels. The person with an Oedipal complex lives in a soap opera and drags others down into it. They have not developed an adquate superego and generally act like immature brats. They deny the importance of truth, seeking to hold up power and influence as the best guides for conduct. They use charm instead of truth. They do not argue logically but prefer innuendo and other loose thought processes, such as stereotypes and relativism, in order to deal with their castration anxieties. They are essentially driven to see what they can get away with and they exploit other people's guilt and maternal feelings as a means of escaping punishment. Going to Dr Dietz was going to mom. Calling me a James Bond movie villian is demonizing the father figure. Misleading people about the appropriateness of their data did not seem unethical to them because they are essentially amoral characters who do not believe in truth, goodness or fair play. The see themselves as cute little pretty boys showing off for the girls and for other psychopaths such as themselves. You are falling into this same pattern of behavior. You are not questionning data, you are questionning personality. You are avoiding logic while being angry that I can play the personality assault game just as well or better than people like you. This is the sort of stuff that high school teachers have to deal with all the time. Brats in revolt against the unpleasant reality of their immaturity, incompetence, amorality and incontinence. If you want to exchange personality jabs, I would be happy to do so with you in private. I have a degree in personality psychology and I have known a lot people. I have especially had experience dealing with incompetent psychopathic people parading themselves as scientists. I think I can handle you. Unfortunately, I do not think the sick children you are paid to help can depend on your expertise. You waste valuable time that could be spent learning better research methods by poking a lion that you can not handle. I would have thought UT could do better than you but corruption, incompetence and stupidty are everywhere. Can you think of any contexts in which we might help children if we could infer causation from correlation? Do you have anything of substance to say about CR. Exactly where am I wrong, about the mathematics and philosophy of science? Bill Chambers "Paul R Swank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 01ed01c26bd8$9eb18fe0$520e6a81@PEDUCT225">news:01ed01c26bd8$9eb18fe0$520e6a81@PEDUCT225... > William Chambers: > > It has been apparent from the start that, in your opinion, anyone who > disagrees with you is a fraud. That's fine. You may consider me whatever you > want. But the name calling does not further your cause and will serve to > dissuade many from participating in the list. Does that advance the cause of > truth? > > Paul R. Swank, Ph.D. > Professor, Developmental Pediatrics > Medical School > UT Health Science Center at Houston > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Censorship on EDSTAT > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "E. Jacquelin Dietz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: The Mob Howls Genius > > > > Dr. Chambers, > > > > I am the listowner of the edstat e-mail list. As you may know, the > > newsgroup sci.stat.edu and the edstat list are linked so that messages > > posted to one are forwarded to the other. I have no control over the > > newsgroup, but I do monitor the edstat list to limit spam and to keep > > the conversation on the topic of teaching statistics. Some list members > > have expressed concern in private messages to me about the negative tone > > of much of the discussion on CR. I am seriously considering screening > > out this conversation from the list. This would have no effect on the > > newsgroup. So that you will understand what many of us find offensive, > > here are some quotes from your most recent message: > > > > ----------- > > > > I do not trust you or your pals. > > > > That way I will know you are not cheating or doing something incompetent. > > > > Its a matter of integrity and competence. You and you pals appear to > > lack both. > > > > Never was clear what you were doing, because your adolescent Oedipal > > strivings kept confusing the issues. > > > > I do not trust you. > > ----------- > > > > If your messages continue to contain such insults, I will take action to > > screen future messages from the edstat list. I'd like to emphasize > > again that this action would have no effect on the conversation on the > > newsgroup. > > > > Jackie Dietz > > Listowner > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > E. Jacquelin Dietz (919) 515-1929 (phone) > > Department of Statistics, Box 8203 (919) 515-1169 (FAX) > > North Carolina State University > > Raleigh, NC 27695-8203 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Street address for FedEx: > > Room 210E Patterson Hall, 2501 Founders Drive > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Ms Dietz, > > Why are you allowing them to continually insult me and to make fraudulent > attempts to invalid CR? > I really do not trust these people after the way they have behaved. And they > are showing every indication of the psychopathic behavior of people with > Oedipal strivings. I have been compared with villians from James Bond > movies, my posts have been described as bullshit and I am continuously > confronted with posts that are contrived to mislead people. You have > apparently said nothing. I signed onto the newslist in order to alert people > to the fact that I had an article requested, accepted and rejected by the > journal SEM in a most unethical manner. The same people who are complaining > to you accused me of lying about that but have consistently refused to check > the evidence. You are allowing a hand ful of people to abuse me without > seeing that others also criticize the same people. > > You can join the people on semnet and censor a legitimate statistical > procedure that has revolutionary implications. But you will not intimidate > me or force me to allow incompetent and dishonest delinquents to run > science. I have tried every strategy I can. I will be polite with them for > days and they will continue to abuse. I will simply state the numbers and > equations and they abuse. I will quote prominent philosophers and > mathematicians and they abuse. Why have you not put a stop to their > behavior? > > Has a single person expressed concern about the fraudlent behavior of the > editors of SEM to you? Do you care about the truth? > > William Chambers > > > > > . > . > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > ================================================================= > > > . > . > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > ================================================================= . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
