> > And if Python educators feel that the Turtle approach is so > effective that > > it needs to be part of Python's core, at least make a very overt > nod to > > where the ideas are coming from. There are many people out of > touch with the > > history here. It is easy to assume that people can identify > Turtle graphics > > with Logo and there is no need for an explicit appreciation. > Just not true, > > as of now, and with the intended audience. > > > > Let's play nice. > > Are you offering to write the history of turtle graphics for inclusion > in turtle.py? >
No. Not only I am unqualified to do so, I am uninterested in becoming qualified. What the hell- say it; The little I have read from Papert sounds to me mostly like Genius Assertions. I have a bug-up-my-ass about Genius Assertions and when in the mood for unprovable truths I prefer to read populartizations of theoretical physicists' ideas. But I do believe in the importance of certain Free Software ideas, becuase I have personally benefited from them. Though I don't think there is a literal rule-book to follow, I think conscience should be one's guide. In that context I don't think more than a demo type implementation should be part of Python's standard distribution without some way of including substantial attribution and I don't think in it self belongs in\ the standrad distribution. Publicize a pyLogo or a Xturtle, where proper and appropriate attribution can and I expect will be included with the distribution. And give them a way to run the install from IDLE. The consensus is to the contrary. I have long since given up on being taken seriously on these matters. My algorithmic skills don't justify it, apparently. Art > Toby > -- > Dr. Toby Donaldson > School of Computing Science > Simon Fraser University (Surrey) > _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
