Thank you for the quick feedback. I will try to find the PyCon presentation then :) I think, the "keeping the questions secure and secret" may be solved: - there are questions which are kind of definitions and they are not secret (if you learn the right answer you learn the core syntax, etc.); - there are exercises like questions which can be dynamically generated and verified; so, you can't cheat the answer. I'm very curious what other issues you consider.
Gabor On Wed, May 4, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Reuven M. Lerner wrote: > There was a great talk given at PyCon 2019's education summit about > certification. (I'm sorry that I don't remember who gave it, because it > was excellent, and laid out the issues very clearly.) It really opened > my eyes to the complexity and difficulty of creating a good > certification program -- but also the importance of having one run by > the community, rather than companies. > > I would be happy to chat with other people about setting up some sort of > PSF-sponsored Python certification program, which would benefit everyone > in the community. But it won't be easy or a short-term project, and > there are many issues to deal with, including the need for keeping the > questions secure and secret, while keeping it an open-source project. > > Reuven > > Carl Karsten wrote on 04/05/2022 10:10: >> +1 >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:59 AM <gabor.g...@proinbox.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have checked out the the Python certification programs and I think it >>> would be interesting to create something more "official" and more >>> open/cheaper. I have found a Polish company which calls itself as >>> Python-Institute (which is a bit misleading name in my opinion as it >>> suggest that it is officially related to some organization of the Python >>> community) and sells tests/certs from approx. fifty to several hundred EUR >>> depending on the level. I have tried the entry level and for me it was >>> disappointing from the perspective of the quality of the questions. I >>> haven't tried Microsoft's certification yet. >>> I think it would be a very viable option to create a certification >>> program which is officially supported by the PSF and provide some >>> reasonable pricing (i.e. free if someone just want do a self assessment and >>> a reasonable price if someone want to take the test in a controlled >>> environment). The scope could be the core language elements. >>> Let me know what you think about the usefulness of the idea. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edu-sig mailing list -- edu-sig@python.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to edu-sig-le...@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/edu-sig.python.org/ >>> Member address: c...@nextdayvideo.com >> >> >> > > -- > Reuven M. Lerner, PhD -- Training in Python and data science > Mobile: +972-54-496-8405 * https://lerner.co.il > Twitter: @reuvenmlerner * WeChat: ReuvenLerner > Weekly Python tips: https://BetterDevelopersWeekly.com/ _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list -- edu-sig@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to edu-sig-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/edu-sig.python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
